Is it possible to have 2 markers per minutes? It may sound useless but I believe it is a lot easier to command if we can order two squads at the same.
I don't see why the old method was changed. Was it because of spamming? If that is the case what about "mutiny"? If the commander get kicked out, the map gets clear. How does that sound?
Re: Commander with more markers!?
Posted: 2010-03-24 09:34
by Jarryd_455495
AFAIK it was changed because of BF2's 1.50 patch changed something and this is the best the devs can make it. Not sure if they know how to do 2 placements a minute but if they can they probly will do it, and maybe even change the arty system we have now.
Re: Commander with more markers!?
Posted: 2010-03-24 10:12
by bad_nade
Allowing only one marker per minute was DICE's answer to cartillery hacks, so I don't think there is much DEV's can do about it.
Re: Commander with more markers!?
Posted: 2010-03-24 10:18
by Dr.Roy.Mustang
clueless_noob wrote:Allowing only one marker per minute was DICE's answer to cartillery hacks, so I don't think there is much DEV's can do about it.
WTH cartillery hack??? How don't see how markers are linked to hacks...
Re: Commander with more markers!?
Posted: 2010-03-24 10:25
by Ford_Jam
I think he is refering to arty hacks in vBF2 where a player could continuously call in arty attacks?
OT: Roy, if you're talking about placing the Enemy Infantry, Enemy Forward Outpost etc. AFAIK it's hardcoded to one minute at a time and is why the SL Radio was introduced.
Re: Commander with more markers!?
Posted: 2010-03-24 10:49
by CallousDisregard
I thought it could not be changed so I got in the habit of just passing intel to nearby squads using the observe or target mark.
I think it is just as fast and keeps the map from getting cluttered.
I hate a cluttered map.
Re: Commander with more markers!?
Posted: 2010-03-24 11:06
by rampo
Dr.Roy.Mustang wrote:WTH cartillery hack??? How don't see how markers are linked to hacks...
PR markers use the same tachnique as the vehicle drops do in battlefield 2
Re: Commander with more markers!?
Posted: 2010-03-24 12:14
by -.-Maverick-.-
Yea the marker system was changed in 1.5, but that's why the devs introduced the SL radio.
I don't think adding more markers is possible, just use the target/observe to send intel to the squads.
Re: Commander with more markers!?
Posted: 2010-03-24 12:18
by dtacs
For those who don't know, this is cartillery.
Re: Commander with more markers!?
Posted: 2010-03-24 12:31
by Ford_Jam
LOLOL!
I thought it was a typo... ignore my previous post
Re: Commander with more markers!?
Posted: 2010-03-24 13:58
by Dev1200
IIRC in BF2 that's a fixed value that in previous dev posts concerning this topic they confirmed it's hardcoded-ness, but they confirmed that there will be a way around it, IE SL radio.
Re: Commander with more markers!?
Posted: 2010-03-25 02:34
by Dr.Roy.Mustang
Ford_Jam wrote:I think he is refering to arty hacks in vBF2 where a player could continuously call in arty attacks?
OT: Roy, if you're talking about placing the Enemy Infantry, Enemy Forward Outpost etc. AFAIK it's hardcoded to one minute at a time and is why the SL Radio was introduced.
You guys keep using AFAIK... What does it stand for? Also what does your "hardcodded" mean? Sorry I am not a IT expert so I may not understand these terminology. Yeah, SL radio can assist commander to plot positions. But what if more than one SQ want to report ennemy locations? :
Ok, SQ leader were given an 3s marker option on a map... But that is only made for contacts. Or does it cover others ennemy assets?
Re: Commander with more markers!?
Posted: 2010-03-25 02:55
by bad_nade
Dr.Roy.Mustang wrote:You guys keep using AFAIK... What does it stand for? Also what does your "hardcodded" mean?
AFAIK = As far as Iknow.
Hardcoded = A feature in the game that cannot be changed.
Re: Commander with more markers!?
Posted: 2010-03-25 04:03
by General Dragosh
clueless_noob wrote:Hardcoded = A feature in the game that cannot be changed.
Without the source code* =P
Re: Commander with more markers!?
Posted: 2010-03-25 04:32
by Celestial1
General Dragosh wrote:Without the source code* =P
Which we will never get, he's still right.
Re: Commander with more markers!?
Posted: 2010-03-25 05:17
by BlackMagikz
i don't like it as much as anyone that PR has to be restarianed becasue of a Vahnilla Problem
Re: Commander with more markers!?
Posted: 2010-03-25 08:33
by joethepro36
USE THE SL RADIO GUYS.
I swear I'm the only guy who pulls out the radio and calls in enemy positions. You are not restricted by the same time limits as the commander, so you can mark stuff as you see it. Combine the radio with a little sl-sl chatter and you can really help your team's co-ordination in about 10-15 seconds.
With the current hardcoded commander marker, I don't mind the curent system. The ball is in the SL's court, as per usual and it is their duty to get things done. If an SL has the time to tell the commander a grid ref of an enemy and the type of enemy it is, he has the time to use the radio to do the same for the team.
And before I get people asking how:
Pull out radio.
Look towards area of enemy.
Get marker on enemy.
Use marker to gauge distance to nearest 100m.
Using Q rose, click centre and select distance.
Use Q rose again to select the type of target.
Marker appears with text on screen to team.
Re: Commander with more markers!?
Posted: 2010-03-25 08:49
by gazzthompson
Dr.Roy.Mustang wrote:
Ok, SQ leader were given an 3s marker option on a map... But that is only made for contacts. Or does it cover others ennemy assets?
SL radio has options for markers of lots of enemy assets including 'nfantry, various armor , RP's, FB's' etc
Re: Commander with more markers!?
Posted: 2010-03-25 09:01
by l|Bubba|l
joethepro36 wrote:USE THE SL RADIO GUYS.
...
And before I get people asking how:
Pull out radio.
Look towards area of enemy. Push your walk key once to make sure that the marker lands on the correct spot.
Get marker on enemy.
Use marker to gauge distance to nearest 100m. You can get it to the nearest 50m. Just right click to use 50m,150m,250m,...
Using Q rose, click centre and select distance.
Use Q rose again to select the type of target.
Marker appears with text on screen to team.
Added comments in red.
Re: Commander with more markers!?
Posted: 2010-04-05 02:29
by Dr.Roy.Mustang
l|Bubba|l wrote:Added comments in red.
Alright, I will give it a try then when I am leading... It really confusing. I can't get a mark on the ennemy for some reason.