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Kashan Desert-just some Jeeps and Humvees?

Posted: 2010-03-27 04:03
by Lange
Hey all,
I've played many rounds of Kashan and all too often it seems like you die on the map and don't have a fob up in the bunkers or whereever far from main because they took it out or something spawn back and at main and only apcs and AA Hummers for transport.

Basically im proposing we need to patch the map to add maybe 2 hummers and Jeeps that respawn for MEC and US, to fix the lack of transport problem. Maybe you have to spawn at main and your choppers are down or the pilot wont cooperate to give you transport, or don't want to waste a APC or they are taken out. Or you can't crew a apc because there is a said asset squad, or can't take crewman kits because you have infantry kits and so on. Its just frustrating to see squad sget stuck at main or be stuck at main yourself with no small vehicles to use in a pinch.

Also i'd say cut down the number of AA Humvees and such theres like 6 of them at main and I rarely see one used.

Re: Kashan Desert-just some Jeeps and Humvees?

Posted: 2010-03-27 04:56
by Jarryd_455495
I've havn't really had this problem, it'd be good to have a few though (even if just for leetness of sitting in .50 next to some tanks pounding away). However they will just get blow into virtual virtual reality, when a good chopper sqd can do x2 as good as job.

Re: Kashan Desert-just some Jeeps and Humvees?

Posted: 2010-03-28 02:02
by goguapsy
Jarryd_455495 wrote: a good chopper sqd can do x2 as good as job.
This doesn't happen in all servers... I think that's what he meant.

Re: Kashan Desert-just some Jeeps and Humvees?

Posted: 2010-03-28 08:29
by Jarryd_455495
ahk... miss read it :o ops:

Re: Kashan Desert-just some Jeeps and Humvees?

Posted: 2010-03-28 09:13
by ondbob
Bit offtopic... You say there are 6 AA hummers, rarely used... Why so? I rarely see any AA squad on this map, are they seen as too little useful, or what? Im not an expert in any way, but recently I have pondered this quite a bit, because in my eyes a good AA squad would probably help their side quite a bit.... Or am i totally wrong?

Re: Kashan Desert-just some Jeeps and Humvees?

Posted: 2010-03-29 01:29
by dtacs
I agree, I would suggest adding the CROWS Humvees but the regular .50 ones are fine.

Once the Bradley's go down or the Blackhawks are busy/dead a complete wipe can mean waiting over 10 minutes at the main with your squad for transport. This is not taking into account most of the time the APC's won't even bother to go back to main to pick up ragtag infantry.

But the CROWS Humvee is so stupidly overpowered right now that a few transport ones would be more wise.

Re: Kashan Desert-just some Jeeps and Humvees?

Posted: 2010-03-30 04:42
by Scared_420
how come there isnt a tow humvee on that map yet ? 1 tow vehicle for each team would be really good and maybe make it spawn only once at say 30mins or so to shake up the tank/apc crews a bit (very easy to spot enemy tank/apc)

Re: Kashan Desert-just some Jeeps and Humvees?

Posted: 2010-06-05 08:52
by axel99i
i dont know why but , when i play kashan at COOP for training and i play MEC i can´t find any jeep or truck for runing forward ...!?

i must take a Crewman kit for Drivin....!

is that a Bug ( Mircosoft say´s : it´s not a Bug , it´s a Feature ;) ) or that´s Server - Settings ( Mod Manager Setting´s )

please help

Re: Kashan Desert-just some Jeeps and Humvees?

Posted: 2010-06-05 09:42
by PLODDITHANLEY
Inclined to agree.

Yes with teamwork, FOB's and decent pilots we shouldn't need more trans trucks, but all too often people are stuck in main and then quit.

I don't think two squad Humvees/Trucks for each team would upset the balance.

Re: Kashan Desert-just some Jeeps and Humvees?

Posted: 2010-06-05 13:23
by Infantry1242
Lange wrote:Hey all,
I've played many rounds of Kashan and all too often it seems like you die on the map and don't have a fob up in the bunkers or whereever far from main because they took it out or something spawn back and at main and only apcs and AA Hummers for transport.

Basically im proposing we need to patch the map to add maybe 2 hummers and Jeeps that respawn for MEC and US, to fix the lack of transport problem. Maybe you have to spawn at main and your choppers are down or the pilot wont cooperate to give you transport, or don't want to waste a APC or they are taken out. Or you can't crew a apc because there is a said asset squad, or can't take crewman kits because you have infantry kits and so on. Its just frustrating to see squad sget stuck at main or be stuck at main yourself with no small vehicles to use in a pinch.

Also i'd say cut down the number of AA Humvees and such theres like 6 of them at main and I rarely see one used.
The APC part,they always leave without me!

Re: Kashan Desert-just some Jeeps and Humvees?

Posted: 2010-06-05 13:25
by Andy[EEF]
If you run out of transport it is your team's fault, there is plenty of it available- 3 bradleys and 2 BH's, plus a few more vehicles that dont respawn at the start. Adding more vehicles would just tie up more people doing transport duties than actually fighting.

Re: Kashan Desert-just some Jeeps and Humvees?

Posted: 2010-06-05 13:33
by AaronFraher
The suggestion is for light transport vehicles, and light transport vehicles are not claimable assets on most servers. So I dont see how this would tie up more people.

Re: Kashan Desert-just some Jeeps and Humvees?

Posted: 2010-06-05 17:48
by WhatMan
Less AA Humvee and more TOW Humvee would even out transportation

Because I had a round when ALL assets were taken out/destroyed and we were ALL left at main

waiting for it to re spawn, we lost 2 flags during this

Re: Kashan Desert-just some Jeeps and Humvees?

Posted: 2010-06-08 05:29
by Lange
WhatMan wrote:Less AA Humvee and more TOW Humvee would even out transportation

Because I had a round when ALL assets were taken out/destroyed and we were ALL left at main

waiting for it to re spawn, we lost 2 flags during this
Well all TOW humvee obviously isn't viable, that would make the US a anti-armor machine which would dominate the MEC lol. Probably would mostly need to be 50 cal ones

This is my idea of asset layout for transport vehicles:


2 respawning AA humvees

2 50 cal humvees respawning

1 TOW humvee respawn

give the MEC like 3 jeeps 2 AA BRDMs and a spandrel or something.

Re: Kashan Desert-just some Jeeps and Humvees?

Posted: 2010-06-08 09:11
by NovemberUniformBravo
Less AA HMV (-4) and add two trans jeeps that seat 6. But make them spawn in when the AA does (delayed) so people will have to actually USE the BHs.

Re: Kashan Desert-just some Jeeps and Humvees?

Posted: 2010-06-08 10:51
by Kingy
Didn't there used to be .50cal humvees on Kashan Desert, I believe it was in .87? Not too sure myself but I can certainly remember them being on Kashan at some point. If the DEV's took them out they must have had a reason for it aswell, possibly to encourage teamwork and stop people relying solely on their squad to do the job.

Personally I never see this problem when the team works together and when you have competent BH pilots and decent APC crewmen who finally understand their job is in the name afterall. Armoured Personell Carrier not oh nice I has 1337 Light tank wit ATGM lulz. Also just build fobs you lazy bugars! It's not hard.

Re: Kashan Desert-just some Jeeps and Humvees?

Posted: 2010-06-08 15:04
by hx.bjoffe
infantry/16player layer of Kashan should feature (just a few) transport APCs. Maybe 3 strykers+2 BTR-60s. At the cost of some hummers/brdms.
my feedback on kashan.

Re: Kashan Desert-just some Jeeps and Humvees?

Posted: 2010-06-08 15:16
by dtacs
hx.bjoffe wrote:infantry/16player layer of Kashan should feature (just a few) transport APCs. Maybe 3 strykers+2 BTR-60s. At the cost of some hummers/brdms.
my feedback on kashan.
That would be an awesome infantry layer actually totally agree. Obviously transport would become a problem if the APCs get progressively raped by TOWs and HATs. Would be sort of evened out when the Strykers get a Mk19 model.

Re: Kashan Desert-just some Jeeps and Humvees?

Posted: 2010-06-08 15:58
by SnipeHunt
Lange wrote:Also i'd say cut down the number of AA Humvees and such theres like 6 of them at main and I rarely see one used.
Yeah, the chopper pilots have an easy enough time crashing on their own.

Re: Kashan Desert-just some Jeeps and Humvees?

Posted: 2010-07-28 10:09
by Urbanxfx
Kashan needs to have more ground combat and less air combat.