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Havoc For Russia on Beirut

Posted: 2010-04-06 14:11
by scharf
Regarding this picture ,

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I Understand this is PRSP , but this could really be awesome on this map , on the same setup that the USMC cobra has on muttrah a single spawn once the first flag is captured and once its dead it doesnt come back , Would really help out with the Pesky tanks that seem to dominate all in current games i have played.

What are peoples thoughts on this

Re: Havoc For Russia on Beirut

Posted: 2010-04-06 21:29
by Drunkenup
I'm not sure about if the Merkeva even respawns for the Israeli's, and if it doesn't I highly disapprove. Would be able to punish the M113, with their lack of firepower and precision. Maybe in a alternative game setting, where the Israeli's get one more Merkeva traded in for a M113, and a Long Respawn Havoc in exchange for the Russians BMPs.

Re: Havoc For Russia on Beirut

Posted: 2010-04-07 04:44
by dtacs
I agree, however to be indicative of balance it would have to be on a 20 minute to so spawn timer imo.

Otherwise this would just be an alternative version of Muttrah, which is what it already is from some angles.

Re: Havoc For Russia on Beirut

Posted: 2010-04-07 05:01
by Excavus
Good idea, but there needs to be at least 1 non-respawnable Mi-17 with rockets, then the Havoc spawns 20 minutes later like Muttrah.

Re: Havoc For Russia on Beirut

Posted: 2010-04-11 10:35
by mangeface
I think a Havoc would be sweet on this map

Re: Havoc For Russia on Beirut

Posted: 2010-04-11 10:37
by mangeface
Drunkenup wrote:I'm not sure about if the Merkeva even respawns for the Israeli's, and if it doesn't I highly disapprove. Would be able to punish the M113, with their lack of firepower and precision. Maybe in a alternative game setting, where the Israeli's get one more Merkeva traded in for a M113, and a Long Respawn Havoc in exchange for the Russians BMPs.
The Merkeva does respawn. I don't know the time for it, but the other day I was playing on tacticalgamer and there were 6 total players on the server, 4 of us on the Russian and 2 on the IDF. We on the Russians grabbed a BMP and a missle BDRM and went Merkeva hunting and killed it. The 2 guys on the IDF left, 1 guy on our team left, and I tried to go back to the ship to fly around in a helo. I ended up getting sent to the IDF and we screwed around, but I do remember running around in M113s and the Merkeva helping the other 2 guys on the Russins (on was a TG admin) hone their TOW skills.

Re: Havoc For Russia on Beirut

Posted: 2010-04-11 10:44
by mangeface
Excavus wrote:Good idea, but the certain Mi-17s needs rockets too.
The whole lot of 128 of them?

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Re: Havoc For Russia on Beirut

Posted: 2010-04-11 19:59
by Scared_420
havok might be overpowered but what about the eurocopter with hydras/dual .50

Re: Havoc For Russia on Beirut

Posted: 2010-04-11 20:01
by Excavus
Scared_420 wrote:havok might be overpowered but what about the eurocopter with hydras/dual .50
Russia doesn't use Eurocopters, sorry.

Re: Havoc For Russia on Beirut

Posted: 2010-04-12 13:32
by General_J0k3r
i agree that some kind of attack chopper would be nice. it wouldn't be overpowered coz the main land can be easily covered by AA. maybe replace a spandrel/apc with it? the way the map is now it is really hard for russia especially given that the vehicle depot can be camped from approx 189 rooftops.

Re: Havoc For Russia on Beirut

Posted: 2010-04-14 15:04
by STORM-Mama
What we need is the Mi-24PN...

Re: Havoc For Russia on Beirut

Posted: 2010-04-14 15:13
by scharf
do any dev's have an opinion on this

Re: Havoc For Russia on Beirut

Posted: 2010-04-14 23:19
by Kain888
Shouldn't this be in suggestion section?

Re: Havoc For Russia on Beirut

Posted: 2010-04-15 01:18
by scope
The spandrals do a fine job, no need for a havoc. imo.

Re: Havoc For Russia on Beirut

Posted: 2010-04-15 02:35
by joethepro36
A havoc would be nice on the map for increased variabilty and flavour. I'd take off 2 of the choppers for the russians though, having 5 trans choppers is beyond overkill.

If there was a balance issue I suppose you could give the IDF another tank, the city kills any tank's advantages regardless.

Re: Havoc For Russia on Beirut

Posted: 2010-04-15 03:02
by alec89
scharf wrote:Regarding this picture ,

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I Understand this is PRSP , but this could really be awesome on this map , on the same setup that the USMC cobra has on muttrah a single spawn once the first flag is captured and once its dead it doesnt come back , Would really help out with the Pesky tanks that seem to dominate all in current games i have played.

What are peoples thoughts on this
I'm for it. :)

Re: Havoc For Russia on Beirut

Posted: 2010-04-15 04:27
by Dev1200
Drunkenup wrote:I'm not sure about if the Merkeva even respawns for the Israeli's, and if it doesn't I highly disapprove. Would be able to punish the M113, with their lack of firepower and precision. Maybe in a alternative game setting, where the Israeli's get one more Merkeva traded in for a M113, and a Long Respawn Havoc in exchange for the Russians BMPs.
Merkeva respawns on the IDF.

Also, less BRDMs, 1 havoc. I would Kill for a havoc on beirut <3

Re: Havoc For Russia on Beirut

Posted: 2010-04-15 04:48
by Hunt3r
It'd make more sense to have 1 Havoc and 2 BMPs.

Re: Havoc For Russia on Beirut

Posted: 2010-04-15 10:47
by dtacs
Hunt3r wrote:It'd make more sense to have 1 Havoc and 2 BMPs.
On top of the Spandrel, BRDMs and BTRs?

A bit too much overkill there, a BMP or 2 alone would be OP'd.

Re: Havoc For Russia on Beirut

Posted: 2010-04-15 10:56
by BabylonCome
I was flying one of the transport choppers the other day (v0.909) and didn't get killed and noticed after 20mins that another one had spawned on deck where I had taken mine from, meaning I couldn't land on the ship due to lack of room. I'm not sure if this has been fixed in the latest patch but anyway back on topic, I too think this would be good as the IDF seam to have a massive advantage on this map.