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Ideas for Kit layouts

Posted: 2010-04-06 19:47
by 7Shughart7
Ideas for the USMC kits, they need some filling in and I'm not sure which items take which number slot.

Squad Leader
1. M7 bayonet
2. 1911
3. M16
4. M26A1
5. M18
6. M18 red
7. M18 yellow
8. Binoculars
9. Field dressing

Rifleman
1. M7 bayonet
2. Entrenching tool
3. M16
4. Ammo bag
5. M26A1
6. M18
7.
8.
9. Field dressing

Rifleman
1. M6 bayonet
2. Entrenching tool
3. M14
4. Ammo bag
5. M26A1
6. M18
7.
8.
9. Field dressing

Point Man ( In the place of rifleman specialist )
1. Machete / Bolo
2.
3. Ithaca 37 / Remington 870 buckshot
5. M26A1
6. M18A1 Claymore
7.
8. Binoculars
9. Field dressing

Corpsman
1. M7 Bayonet
2.
3. M16
4.
5.
6.
7. Medic Bag
8.
9. Field dressings

Support
1. Ka-bar
2.
3. M60
4. M60 deployed
5.
6.
7.
8.
9. Field dressing

Grenadier
1. Ka-bar
2. 1911
3. M79 HE
4. M79 hive round
5. M79 smoke
6. M79 flare?
7.
8.
9. Field dressing

Light Anti-Tank
1. M7 bayonet
2. Entrenching tool
3. M16
4. M72
5. M26A1
6. M18
7.
8.
9. Field dressing

Sniper
1. Ka-bar
2. 1911
3. Winchester M70 / M40
4.
5.
6. M18
7. M18 colored
8. Binoculars
9. Field dressing

Radioman
1. M7 bayonet
2.
3. M16
4.
5. M26A1
6. M18
7. M18 colored
8. Radio
9. Field dressing

Re: Ideas for Kit layouts

Posted: 2010-04-06 19:53
by WilsonPL
Add M1 Carbine, Thompson, S&W revolver,

Re: Ideas for Kit layouts

Posted: 2010-04-06 19:58
by Adetter
Dont like Grenadier? Add a pistol for them,or maybe not.

Re: Ideas for Kit layouts

Posted: 2010-04-06 20:06
by 7Shughart7
The M1 Carbine and Thompson were used mainly during the early war and by supervisors later during the war. The 1911 pistol is in the #2 slot.

Re: Ideas for Kit layouts

Posted: 2010-04-06 20:29
by TheOldBreed
WilsonPL wrote:Add M1 Carbine, Thompson, S&W revolver,
7Shughart7 wrote:The M1 Carbine and Thompson were used mainly during the early war and by supervisors later during the war. The 1911 pistol is in the #2 slot.
what he said haha


liking the looks of this. liking it a lot. remember not every grunt had a sidearm though

EDIT: disregard the sidearm comment haha

Re: Ideas for Kit layouts

Posted: 2010-04-06 20:44
by Arnoldio
Need alternate kits too

Re: Ideas for Kit layouts

Posted: 2010-04-06 21:26
by salaminl
My version of Vietcong/NVA

Squad Leader
1. Bayonet
2. Makarov PM
3. Type 56
4. Chicom
5. Homemade Smoke grenade/Stolen M18
6.
7. Binoculars
8.
9. Field dressing

Rifleman
1. Bayonet
2. Entrenching tool
3. AK-47
4. Ammo bag
5. Chicom
6.
7.
8.
9. Field dressing

Rifleman
1. SKS Bayonet
2. Entrenching tool
3. SKS
4. Ammo bag
5. Chicom
6.
7.
8.
9. Field dressing

Sapper ( In the place of rifleman specialist )
1. Vietcong/NVA Machete
2.
3. MAT-49
5. Chicom
6. Boobytrap
7.
8.
9. Field dressing

Medic
1. Vietcong/NVA Machete
2.
3. PPSh-41
4.
5.
6.
7. Medic Bag
8.
9. Field dressings

Support
1. Vietcong/NVA Machete
2.
3. RPD
4. RPD deployed
5.
6.
7.
8.
9. Field dressing

Grenadier
1. Vietcong/NVA Machete
2. Tokarev TT-33
3. PPS-43
4. 5 Chicom grenades
5. 3 Homemade Smoke grenades/Stolen M18's
6.
7.
8.
9. Field dressing

Light Anti-Tank
1. Bayonet
2. Entrenching tool
3. Ak-47
4. RPG-2
5.
6.
7.
8.
9. Field dressing

Heavy Anti-Tank
1. Bayonet
2. Entrenching tool
3. Ak-47
4. RPG-7
5.
6.
7.
8.
9. Field dressing

Sniper
1. Vietcong/NVA Machete
2. Makarov PM
3. SVD-63
4.
5. Homemade Smoke grenade/Stolen M18
6.
7.
8.
9. Field dressing

Re: Ideas for Kit layouts

Posted: 2010-04-06 21:31
by Bigglestheman
salaminl wrote:My version of Vietcong/NVA

Squad Leader
1. Bayonet
2. Makarov PM
3. Type 56
4. Chicom
5. Homemade Smoke grenade/Stolen M18
6.
7. Binoculars
8.
9. Field dressing

Rifleman
1. Bayonet
2. Entrenching tool
3. AK-47
4. Ammo bag
5. Chicom
6.
7.
8.
9. Field dressing

Rifleman
1. SKS Bayonet
2. Entrenching tool
3. SKS
4. Ammo bag
5. Chicom
6.
7.
8.
9. Field dressing

Sapper ( In the place of rifleman specialist )
1. Vietcong/NVA Machete
2.
3. MAT-49
5. Chicom
6. Boobytrap
7.
8.
9. Field dressing

Medic
1. Vietcong/NVA Machete
2.
3. PPSh-41
4.
5.
6.
7. Medic Bag
8.
9. Field dressings

Support
1. Vietcong/NVA Machete
2.
3. RPD
4. RPD deployed
5.
6.
7.
8.
9. Field dressing

Grenadier
1. Vietcong/NVA Machete
2. Tokarev TT-33
3. PPS-43
4. 5 Chicom grenades
5. 3 Homemade Smoke grenades/Stolen M18's
6.
7.
8.
9. Field dressing

Light Anti-Tank
1. Bayonet
2. Entrenching tool
3. Ak-47
4. RPG-2
5.
6.
7.
8.
9. Field dressing

Heavy Anti-Tank
1. Bayonet
2. Entrenching tool
3. Ak-47
4. RPG-7
5.
6.
7.
8.
9. Field dressing

Sniper
1. Vietcong/NVA Machete
2. Makarov PM
3. SVD-63
4.
5. Homemade Smoke grenade/Stolen M18
6.
7.
8.
9. Field dressing
I doubt the Vietcong had field dressing they were guerrilla fighters.

Re: Ideas for Kit layouts

Posted: 2010-04-06 21:56
by salaminl
Bigglestheman wrote:I doubt the Vietcong had field dressing they were guerrilla fighters.
Field dressings are for the NVA, sorry for the confusing. See the vietcong as insergents and the NVA as MEC.

Re: Ideas for Kit layouts

Posted: 2010-04-06 22:00
by 7Shughart7
salaminl wrote:Field dressings are for the NVA, sorry for the confusing. See the vietcong as insergents and the NVA as MEC.
Or see the NVA as more like the Taliban, they're slightly better equipped than the Vietcong

Re: Ideas for Kit layouts

Posted: 2010-04-06 22:05
by salaminl
7Shughart7 wrote:Or see the NVA as more like the Taliban, they're slightly better equipped than the Vietcong
Fair enough :smile:

Re: Ideas for Kit layouts

Posted: 2010-04-06 23:58
by snotmaster0
For VC or maybe even NVA, I think that the standard grenadier kit should be replaced with a "saboteur" type kit with various traps to be placed. Ex. Punjj stakes, tripwire mines, and maybe a special shovel that "activates" (builds) mapper placed traps (if thats even REMOTELY possible, lol). I feel that such a kit would bring some sweet asymmetrical warfare!

Re: Ideas for Kit layouts

Posted: 2010-04-07 00:08
by SGT.JOKER
Machine Gunner's

Im basing this off pictures Ive seen (for the US forces, Im just passing it over to NVA since theyre a conventional force)
US Army/MC
1: Bayonet/Kbar
2:M1911
3:M60
4:M18
5:feild dressing
6:
7:

NVA
1: Knife
2: Tarakov
3: RPD
4: smoke grenade
5: feild dressing
6:
7:

VC (gurilla forces, older weapon, less equipment)
1: knife
2: DP-20
3: Smoke grenade
4:
5:

Re: Ideas for Kit layouts

Posted: 2010-04-08 01:12
by Hitman.2.5
The support kit for the USA could have a M79 as well...

Re: Ideas for Kit layouts

Posted: 2010-04-08 01:41
by SGT.JOKER
Hitman.2.5 wrote:The support kit for the USA could have a M79 as well...
Too much like BFV and thatd be too much weight for your average soldier to carry (from what Ive read most M79 grenaders would have atleast a claymor e bag full of shells along with their regular m1956 pouchs and bandoliers)

Re: Ideas for Kit layouts

Posted: 2010-04-08 07:57
by Bellator
Why would every US soldier carry M1911?

I think that the equipment of all soldiers, including American, should be lighter than the current PR kits, because from what I understand, they preferred to reduce the load in jungle fighting.

Re: Ideas for Kit layouts

Posted: 2010-04-08 13:20
by Dutch(CAN)
The US grenadier kit should have an M16. He didn't carry all the grenades he needed for a mission by himself. When soldiers went into the field everyone in the squad shared the load, some got a load of M60 ammo or a bandolier or 2 of 40mm grenades. This is the intent behind riflemen carrying ammo.

Just saying the grenadier wouldn't go into the field that disadvantaged. Even a shotgun could be substituted, however, they usually weighed more than an M16 anyways.

Re: Ideas for Kit layouts

Posted: 2010-04-08 13:32
by gazzthompson
Dutch(CAN) wrote:The US grenadier kit should have an M16.
source? pretty sure they didn't carry a rifle with them:

M79 grenade launcher - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Moreover, its size meant that a soldier with an M79 would be dedicated to being only a grenadier, and if he ran out of ammunition had nothing but a pistol and knife to contribute to a firefight
hole reason the XM148/m203 where developed.

im not 100% on this as my knowledge of vietnam war era equipment is limited, but the only picture i can find of some one carrying a m79 and a rifle is of a US operator in iraq.

Re: Ideas for Kit layouts

Posted: 2010-04-08 13:36
by ma21212
the grenadiers in Vietnam only had the m79 which came with HE rounds and Buckshot rounds and he carried up to 20 or even more rounds iirc.
The XM148 was what came before the 203 but i dont think it was used alot
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XM148_grenade_launcher

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Re: Ideas for Kit layouts

Posted: 2010-04-08 14:38
by 7Shughart7
Maybe even a parachute flare round could be added to the grenadier kit.