Why is there virtually no deviation change when a person goes to crouch and prone? FIX IT! I keep encountering these Bunny Rabits that use this pop-up Happy People and its so I like pie annoying. They should incur a huge deviation penalty for doing that ninja.
re: Fix pop up...
Posted: 2010-04-25 08:41
by -=shootmeplz=-
10, 9, 8, 7 .....
re: Fix pop up...
Posted: 2010-04-25 08:47
by Conman51
they already did?
re: Fix pop up...
Posted: 2010-04-25 09:02
by Snazz
There is a significant deviation penalty when going prone but not between standing and crouch.
IIRC the devs can't change that, but telling them to "FIX IT!" isn't well received either way.
re: Fix pop up...
Posted: 2010-04-25 09:29
by Filamu
IF you remove the ability to pop up, at least between crouch and standing you will remove much of the point in using cover such as foxholes. It would be too easy killing of lots of guys in cover if they cant use it...
re: Fix pop up...
Posted: 2010-04-25 09:31
by Chuc
It took us BF2 patch 1.5 to get that prone deviation penalty in. It's one of those 'if we could we would' things I'm afraid..
re: Fix pop up...
Posted: 2010-04-25 09:47
by Jigsaw
Seriously, another one of your threads where the only necessary response seems to be:
There is a massive deviation penalty when going standing/crouch --> prone but that is something that was only introduced as a result of the BF2 1.5 patch. The rest of it cannot be altered, although believe me if it could have been changed then it would have.
Please remember that this is a game, so simply do what works to win. This is not a simulation.
re: Fix pop up...
Posted: 2010-04-25 09:53
by Rudd
FIX IT!!!!!!!!
just suppress the guy then he can't see
re: Fix pop up...
Posted: 2010-04-25 10:50
by l|Bubba|l
[R-CON]Rudd wrote:FIX IT!!!!!!!!
just suppress the guy then he can't see
The problem with this pop-up shooting is that you don't have to see your target. Even after crouching, lie down and standing up again, your cross-hair is always on the exact same spot. Its like a weapon thats mounted on automatic turret and not hold by a human being.
re: Fix pop up...
Posted: 2010-04-25 11:21
by Truism
Not a meaningful one. All the possible fixes are just cosmetic afaik.
re: Fix pop up...
Posted: 2010-04-25 11:22
by AnimalMother.
l|Bubba|l wrote:always on the exact same spot.
you're allowed to move, this isn't WW1 were people sit in cover and slog it out.
he keeps popping up? suppress him, get your squadmates to do the same (allowing you to move a bit to better cover), then flank the bugger and ventilate him
re: Fix pop up...
Posted: 2010-04-25 13:37
by Cassius
I think one of the devs mentioned it being hartcoded before.
re: Fix pop up...
Posted: 2010-04-25 13:51
by Tim270
Its pretty much unstoppable when you are standing and facing someone who is crouching doing this, you stay crouched for 4-5seconds, pop up and you are dead accurate, the guy standing up still will not be able to hit you as you are more accurate + BF2 laggy hitboxes.
re: Fix pop up...
Posted: 2010-04-25 13:55
by goguapsy
Ghost1800 wrote:Would there be any way to make the camera turn in any direction when getting up from prone? Or for that matter is there any trigger associated with that action to apply any action?
Couldn't this be done with the "headbob" thing? (Like, when you jump, you get a "running" animation that prevents you from bunny hopping...) I'd also like a headbob or suppressing effect when getting hit (several times I got hit and I thought it was a bug/glitch... I started bleeding but I was like "ok, I got hit. Whatever. Just throw down a patch if I am indeed wounded and keep on my merry way..."
re: Fix pop up...
Posted: 2010-04-25 20:44
by Wraith
<---Puts on his fireman's outfit
All I see in these posts is.
1. I engage target behind cover
2. Target crouches to avoid fire
3. I miss A LOT
4. Target transitions from kneeling to offhand and shoots my face off
NO FAIR!!!
A word to the wise:
He who runs in straight in straight line must die many horrible death by noob.
Feel Free to PM and I'll tell you how horrible you are.
re: Fix pop up...
Posted: 2010-04-26 00:23
by malv
Wraith wrote:<---Puts on his fireman's outfit
All I see in these posts is.
1. I engage target behind cover
2. Target crouches to avoid fire
3. I miss A LOT
4. Target transitions from kneeling to offhand and shoots my face off
NO FAIR!!!
A word to the wise:
He who runs in straight in straight line must die many horrible death by noob.
Feel Free to PM and I'll tell you how horrible you are.
Actually, the problem is that a person can gain pinpoint accuracy without even having LOS. Look at prone target in the distance while standing, crouch immediately, don't move mouse, wait, pop up with pinpoint accurate fire. Pretty stupid. The deviation system penalizes a prone target for slight mouse movement, but it doesn't penalize crouch to stand.
If I was admining a server and I saw a player doing this I would kick them immediately. To me, its exploiting a flaw in the mechanics of the game since there is no reason for why a person doing that should gain any sort of tactical advantage.
re: Fix pop up...
Posted: 2010-04-26 03:57
by Thermis
This is old news, search for old threads and read up if you like, but we're doing the best we can on the issue.