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to be honest, I actually do this almost every time i'm Russian on Yamila.

I find it quite entertaining, especially when a chinook tries to kamikaze you and misses lol.

I don't think people mind too much, as long as your are giving transport/supplies when they ask. When you're not busy or the team just doesn't need anything you can just go mess around until you get a call.

I only do it on the 16 layer.

tommytgun wrote: I don't think people mind too much, as long as your are giving transport/supplies when they ask. When you're not busy or the team just doesn't need anything you can just go mess around until you get a call.

Here's the thing, when transport helicopters go down they cost 5-10 tickets, plus the pilots in them. If it goes down on a transport run, so be it, that's it's intended purpose. But if a pilot goes off on his own to have fun and gets shot down, that's 5-10 tickets that could easily cost us the game. As a ground player, I REALLY don't like seeing empty choppers flying over the city because the pilots got bored. I've lost many rounds because of too many choppers going down. I think if you are an impatient person, you should not be flying helicopters.

Your case seems a little special though, in which you managed to down their choppers, as well as aid the team heavily both in your standard role and in an air support one. I say good on you. If you can pull it off, that's a great tactic, but on the flip side if you had lost 5+ choppers I'd have called it a waste.

Devs have said they really dont like to see choppers used as gunships at all. IRL the gunners almost never fire. They are defensive 'last resort' options when landing and shouldn't be used to act as a mobile weapons platform. HOWEVER, in INS maps its kind of different isnt it? May just be movie magic, but in ramiel (bhd somalia) it seems like those blackhawks can hover fairly out of effective rpg range and circle enemy known locations. Right?

what do players mean when they say COW?

It is the Mec Mi17. Just the common term we use for it.

I don't know why its called a COW when the name is Hip.

IIRC it's just a NATO call sign? that was given to the HiP

I thought it was just because its big, fat and slow, much like a cow

I've seen this tacit used a number of times, but mainly by the blackhawk and really only on insurgency maps.
The problem does lie with the fact that on a map against a conventional force, they generally have the AA (static/vehicles/infantry) and also vehicles capable of shooting down a chopper fairly quickly where as the insurgent/Taliban do not have plentiful supply of these, if at all.

Nato call sign is Hip, all helis begin with H havoc, hind etc. Fighters with F, Flogger, Flanker, Frogfoot, Bombers with a B etc etc.

Big fat and slow = cow

the door guns on choppers are useless anyway. if you can get a kill in any shape or form i would take it and be happy with it.

Psykogundam wrote:the door guns on choppers are useless anyway. if you can get a kill in any shape or form i would take it and be happy with it.

I really disagree tbh

I've seen plenty of examples where men firing out the side of a heli have suppressed enemies attemping to shoot back.

The Blackhawk is the best at this ofc, but the other armed helis can certainly cause chaos in the enemies ranks.

when it comes to these side guns, killing isn't the point, the point is suppresion - which they do well imo.

[R-DEV]Rudd wrote:I really disagree tbh

I've seen plenty of examples where men firing out the side of a heli have suppressed enemies attemping to shoot back.

The Blackhawk is the best at this ofc, but the other armed helis can certainly cause chaos in the enemies ranks.

when it comes to these side guns, killing isn't the point, the point is suppresion - which they do well imo.

What he said.

Ive managed to get a couple of kills with the cow's door guns, more by fluke that anything else.
Being on the receiving end is rather intimidating, all those big *** bullets landing around you, and knowing that even with a SAW you have trouble damaging a cow!

if you had come here complaining that you couldnt get any kills with the helicopter, i would have told you that you were misuseing it. your ran supplies to your team then you suppressed ground targets and severely hampered the enemies ablility to move. you took out more helicopters then you lost, so ticket wise you were in the black. if anything your doing more for your team then most chopper pilots do. i dont see a problem with it.

I don't see how this is effective. Isn't the chinooks ingame speed about 600+ km/h and the Mi-17's less than half that? The longest burst your 50cal could get out before the chinook is gone would be a second or so.

That only works because you were playing against retards. A chinook can easily get away from the slow-*** cow if the pilot isn't utterly braindead.