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Lakshar Valley Currently has no CAS and it is 2 KM which is big enough for it.

The Terrain on Lakshar is so pefect for apache support that no one can deny flying there would be fun and more combat effective.

I am suggesting adding one more heli pad to the brittish main in lakshar valley to support apache support along with the lynx for transport.


- If the taliban team is skilled and brittish cant get through there defenses then a stale mate ensues.

This is where the apache comes in for some close air support clearing the way of some of the defenders and giving the brits a fighting chance to push on through to there objectives.


The terrain on this map was made for apache combat.

APACHE AH64 is used today in combat READ the reports @ Wikileaks.ORG

Also the apache base could possibly be located in the bottom Left ( SouthWest ) corner of the map, with One spawn point and it could also act as a Forward observation base for snipers to spawn at or infantry squads. It would also have HESCO barriers and MG nest to defend.( This would work kind of how Korrengal Valley spawn point system that is in place on that map and the taliban would not be able to reach it because it is located in the Dome of Death.)

MAP OVERVIEW check south west corner of map

https://www.realitymod.com/forum/memb...picture732.jpg

As much as I would love an AH64 on this map i simpily think it wouldnt work. Dont know why. Just my opinion

Check out all the terrain, theres so many hills to "Pop up . Kill .Pop back down " tactic
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It is undeniable that the apache would be effective on this map. The terrain on this map was made for apache combat.

I think the map is too small. If the Apache's spawn/reload area could be outside the playing area I could see it working, but right now I think it's just to exposed leaving/entering main.
Would get buttraped like it was on the old Karbala.

Its a small FOB, they usually dont have a permanent landing pad for helicopters at all, so hosting a Apache on it would not look very realistic.

Perhaps the Apache is a little too powerful for the map, but I'll agree that some form of CAS could be used on that constant stalemate. Perhaps a LB or Gunship Huey...that is if the British get them. (At the moment I don't remember if the Brits have any other helicopter than the Apache.)

perhaps a lynx with rocket pods?

Please, stop being chopper whores guys, the map barely supports a Lynx.

The Lynx gets raped on takeoff half the time anyway, an Apache would be no different.

Think the quote in my sig applies to this thread.

I'd like to see an Apache on this map, however the problem is that it'll get raped in main constantly, unless a kind of helicopter base was set up in the corner of the map with a DoD etc in as if it came from Camp Bastion or something.

So it won't work gameplay wise

I don't consider myself a 'chopper whore,' but I do consider myself quite annoyed at the constant stalemating on Lakshar and wish something could help end it. And don't say better teamwork or anything like that. I've been on really impressive teams and we still get stuck.

Beowulf2525 wrote:I don't consider myself a 'chopper whore,' but I do consider myself quite annoyed at the constant stalemating on Lakshar and wish something could help end it. And don't say better teamwork or anything like that. I've been on really impressive teams and we still get stuck.

An Apache wouldnt be able to help if it couldnt make it out of main. Rudd's idea could work but even so the only tactic it would be able to effectively use would be BVR fire.

Maybe more armour could be added to help end stalemates.

Beowulf2525 wrote:I don't consider myself a 'chopper whore,' but I do consider myself quite annoyed at the constant stalemating on Lakshar and wish something could help end it. And don't say better teamwork or anything like that. I've been on really impressive teams and we still get stuck.

I'm 90% sure it's because of the very limited routes that the brits can move their logistics along, especially if the cache spawns on that eastern F/G/H third of the map... the roads are the only way up and the vehicles just can't make it up there reliably.

I would love to see that lynx scrapped and have a merlin (yeah yeah, it lags up etc but I'm talking in an ideal world) that could actually deliver crates for the brits to remote locations. This would allow for staging from many more areas on the map and thus give them a real fighting chance, able to approach the cache from their desired route, rather than be constrained to the limited logistics-trucks.

I am very sure that an apache would not solve the issues that the posters in this thread are complaining about, due to the nature of apache use.

Yeah, one of the best ideas I have seen, and no it isnt too smal, it is the same size as muttrah, 2km

PatrickLA_CA wrote:Yeah, one of the best ideas I have seen, and no it isnt too smal, it is the same size as muttrah, 2km

Bad comparison my friend, Muttrah has a bay seperating the spawn of the Cobra from the mainland preventing immediate rape.

The British FOB on Lashkar has nothing of the sort, and is located at the low point of the valley.

The map would require a redesign to be compatible with the apache. Unless an invicidome is put in, i do not see the apache living longer than 15mins ever on this map.

i think more armor wouldn't help at all.... and the british lose on that map alot. making it a boring map most of the time.

i think the real problem with the idea would be that the taliban main would get raped now instead.

in the end i favor the idea because the map is lacking imo.... i think it could be done with a few changes like making the asset spawn at round start, add a reason for there to be a fire lockon from the sa-7 if tried to point at main (every main with helis should have this) and add a fixed aa gun at taliban main. perhaps reduce the armor a little also.

i think the real problem with the idea would be that the taliban main would get raped now instead.

thats a good point and can't really be avoided without underground stuff

do we get a JDAM on lashkar? if not, i guess that could be a decent second to having an apache?

Now,i would totally love a AH-64 Apache,but with the cliff cache usually only about 220 meters away from the British main,i don't see the British team ever getting that in the air,and even if it gets up,once it makes a fly buy,there will be a RPG rocket with its name on it.The map just isn't made for CAS,but maybe a UH-60 or something like that cause the Lynx always get shot down when im playing.

Infantry1242 wrote:but maybe a UH-60 or something like that.

The RAF doesn't operate hueys as far as I know.