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Joysticks, is there any point ?

Posted: 2010-06-13 17:43
by bigbear948
Since 1.5, my joystick has only one working axis making it pretty useless. When flying do people mainly use the mouse and keyboard ? I was going to buy the speedlink black wido flighstick(my old logitech broke) but then rembered 1.5. I have tried a keylogger program but its not as good as before.

So should I just use a good mouse + keyboard ?

Re: Joysticks, is there any point ?

Posted: 2010-06-13 17:46
by ghostfool84
Its a bug that your Joystick doesnt work the right way, you have to delete all Falcon Commands then it should work, i had the same problem a while ago, i used a Logitech now i use a Thrustmaster, both work.

Re: Joysticks, is there any point ?

Posted: 2010-06-13 17:47
by Rhino
99% of joysticks work with BF2. Buy a Saitek Stick if you want a good quality one which wont brake :)

Make sure you also program your Joystick axis in the secondary field and also you will need to reprogram your joystick after 1.5 patch.

Re: Joysticks, is there any point ?

Posted: 2010-06-13 18:12
by bigbear948
yeah I tried all of that , deleting falcon settings, putting joystick settings in the secondary bit.
What do you mean by "reprogram joystick after 1.5" ?

Re: Joysticks, is there any point ?

Posted: 2010-06-13 19:05
by Rhino
just putting in the controls into your control options again :)

Have you tried reinstalling and also cleaning your profile?

Re: Joysticks, is there any point ?

Posted: 2010-06-13 21:08
by bigbear948
but would I not have to reinstall patch 1.5 aswell? it kind of defeats the point.

Re: Joysticks, is there any point ?

Posted: 2010-06-13 21:11
by Rhino
not if there is something screwed up with your installation it aint. But I would try clearing your profile first and redoing your controls from scratch :)

Re: Joysticks, is there any point ?

Posted: 2010-06-13 21:16
by bigbear948
"clearing my profile" ?

thanks

Re: Joysticks, is there any point ?

Posted: 2010-06-13 22:05
by Rhino
open my docs, go into the BF2 folder, profile folder, should be a folder called "001", "002" etc, in each folder go in and delete the "controls.con" (back it up first just encase) and then reload bf2.

Re: Joysticks, is there any point ?

Posted: 2010-06-14 04:42
by charliegrs
Flying jets with a joystick is a night and day difference between flying with a mouse and keyboard. Your range of motion is severely limited with a mouse, with a joystick you can do things like barrel rolls and loops etc that to my knowledge are not possible with a mouse, not to mention if you have a joystick with a throttle control you have much more control over that too. Trust me, if you have a joystick use that for flying jets you will be a million times more effective.

As for choppers, I cant fly to save my life with a joystick. for choppers i use my mouse, its strange but to me it feels so much better.

Re: Joysticks, is there any point ?

Posted: 2010-06-14 05:37
by charliegrs
Draakon wrote:Acctualy, i am a keyboard&mouse flyer. I use the mouse only when i am goming in for a attack run, since i can achive much better accuarcy then with the keyboard. But i do use keyboard for the rest of the flying. I have myself a controller as well, but i haven't gotten used to it so its much more worser. But it does work.
I was that way for a long time too, however I think mouse and keyboard flyers are at a real disadvantage against enemy jets that use joysticks due to the greater manueverability you can achieve with a joystick. I mean, just try going upside down with a mouse, Im pretty sure it cant be done.

Re: Joysticks, is there any point ?

Posted: 2010-06-14 08:32
by Patrick&Kyitha
I have Logitech Attack 3. Decent joystick with software that allows you to change sensitivity etc. Some ppl I know are using pads (like Xbox or PS3 like) to fly both planes and helis.

Re: Joysticks, is there any point ?

Posted: 2010-06-14 08:41
by Tim270
Mouse and key is a must for chopper flying imo, jet flying is doable with a mouse but you can achieve better results if you tune your joystick well enough.

Re: Joysticks, is there any point ?

Posted: 2010-06-14 08:43
by Rudd
for sensitive manouvres a mous is better imo, but for big evasive manouvres etc joystick wins.

Re: Joysticks, is there any point ?

Posted: 2010-06-14 08:57
by CareBear
i just use pure keyboard all the time :D

works pretty well, recently got some pedals which are just epic for power control!

Re: Joysticks, is there any point ?

Posted: 2010-06-14 09:11
by Sgt.BountyOrig
Why did nobody inform me of these pedals

Re: Joysticks, is there any point ?

Posted: 2010-06-14 14:35
by [FED]Mad
well, i fly stick with a little keyboard help, dying breed apearantly, there is a reason that there isnt a mouse and keyboard in real planes and choppers. I think that especially with throttle control you can fly more easy.

Example, when in apache I can set throttle control to hover and go up and down with keyboard buttons. in a jet, its joystick only you just try and move your mouse as fast as i can with joystick. but then real dogfights that last longer then 5 seconds are scarse in PR. usually its missile lock and boom lol

Re: Joysticks, is there any point ?

Posted: 2010-06-14 15:25
by Zoddom
I tested flying with joystick/mouse in both vanilla nd pr yesterday.
untill now, i always played with mouse in helis and keyboard only in jets.
my review:


PR:
Jet:
-With mouse very annoying cause of the big curves you have to fly, but precise.
-With joystick very comfortable, accurate
-With keyboard a bit unprecise control and laggy, but comfortable and accurate in gun strafes.
Heli:
-with mouse VERY accurate in both control and attacking, very comfortable
-with joystick very uncomfortable, continious cerrection necessary, hovering nearly impossible.
- not played with keyboard

vanilla:
Jet:
-with mouse very accurate in bombing/gun strafes but too slow for dogfights
-with joystick very comfortable but inaccurate in attacking and dogfights
-with keyboard very comfortable, accurate with a bit training, fast turns possible (imo the only way to make turns without roll your jet)
Heli:
-with mouse VERY accurate in both control and attacking, very comfortable, fast maneuvres possible
-with joystick just annoyingly hasty, not as fast as mouse
-with keyboard too slow for flying....


=> still prefer mouse for helis and starting to exercise with mouse in jets for vanilla and with joystick in jets for PR (but think i stick with keyboard for PR, because i dont want to change controls all the day)