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Black Hawk Types

Posted: 2010-06-20 01:08
by Infantry1242
Maybe you devs could make different types of Black Hawks like the Battle Hawk and/or a Black Hawk without the minigun,both of them aren't hard coded as i've seen the Battle Hawk in Allied Intent and a Black Hawk with out the minigun on Close Quarters Battle (JPN added in that mod)

Re: Black Hawk Types

Posted: 2010-06-20 01:12
by Bringerof_D
FYI hardcoded means the engine cannot do it. There's no such thing as hard coded if the idea does not involve any code that's not already in game.

in any case, dont we already have blackhawks without miniguns or am i mistaken?

Re: Black Hawk Types

Posted: 2010-06-20 01:15
by Infantry1242
Bringerof_D wrote:FYI hardcoded means the engine cannot do it. There's no such thing as hard coded if the idea does not involve any code that's not already in game.

in any case, dont we already have blackhawks without miniguns or am i mistaken?
Not that i am aware of,because the Black Hawk is from the vanilla BF2.I don't think you can modify vanilla vehicles.But since those guys did,maybe you can.

Re: Black Hawk Types

Posted: 2010-06-20 01:16
by sylent/shooter
what about the blackhawk with the rocket pods? anyone up for vanilla BF2?

Re: Black Hawk Types

Posted: 2010-06-20 01:16
by Infantry1242
sylent/shooter wrote:what about the blackhawk with the rocket pods? anyone up for vanilla BF2?
Rocket Pods?

Re: Black Hawk Types

Posted: 2010-06-20 01:16
by Rhino
Infantry1242 wrote:both of them aren't hard coded as i've seen the Battle Hawk in Allied Intent and a Black Hawk with out the minigun on Close Quarters Battle (JPN added in that mod)
lol.

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Making Blackhawks with rocket pods has been suggested many times in the past, try searching... :roll:

Re: Black Hawk Types

Posted: 2010-06-20 01:18
by Infantry1242
'[R-DEV wrote:Rhino;1370489']lol.

Hard coding - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Making Blackhawks with rocket pods has been suggested many times in the past, try searching... :roll:
Um,English with the hard coding definition....Lolz

Re: Black Hawk Types

Posted: 2010-06-20 01:21
by goguapsy
That's simple modelling, so it ain't hardcoded at all! Just need to change the map layouts (after making the model!).

Now, I don't see how this would be useful... I mean, miniguns are rarely used in my opinion... Why bother taking them of? They may still be useful for suppression!


EDIT: Just realized I posted this after leaving this open for 13 minutes... 6 posts later here I am! XD

Re: Black Hawk Types

Posted: 2010-06-20 01:24
by Infantry1242
goguapsy wrote:That's simple modelling, so it ain't hardcoded at all! Just need to change the map layouts (after making the model!).

Now, I don't see how this would be useful... I mean, miniguns are rarely used in my opinion... Why bother taking them of? They may still be useful for suppression!
Yes,but with all those a$@hats who fire the gun off thinking "Oh well,they enemy can't hear it" well,i would say they are rarely used im my opinion too.But since when was the minigun ever actually effective in suppression as the enemy will get a rocket launcher or a sort of LAV or AA or CAS back-up.

Re: Black Hawk Types

Posted: 2010-06-20 01:31
by goguapsy
Infantry1242 wrote:Yes,but with all those a$@hats who fire the gun off thinking "Oh well,they enemy can't hear it" well,i would say they are rarely used im my opinion too.But since when was the minigun ever actually effective in suppression as the enemy will get a rocket launcher or a sort of LAV or AA or CAS back-up.
Speed is the key! Also this could be useful in insurgency, specially ramiel (realized that when I did a violent low-level 180 turn trying to avoid a techie while a full squad including an in-squad gunner and Alt+f4ing after doing an stupid crash on ramiel...

Re: Black Hawk Types

Posted: 2010-06-20 01:32
by FuzzySquirrel
Hmm...Let's check the *** List.
Vehicles - Rocket pods on Blackhawk/AH-60L Blackhawk DAP
Dang, Another Resuggestion, If only we had a tool to search for stuff like this. Oh wait..........

Re: Black Hawk Types

Posted: 2010-06-20 01:34
by Hitman.2.5
Infantry1242 wrote:Yes,but with all those a$@hats who fire the gun off thinking "Oh well,they enemy can't hear it" .
well you would hear the sound depression from the rotors before the guns...

There are few different types of S-70 family aircraft:

there is the mentioned AH-60 battle hawk
UH-60 Black Hawk - (Army) utility chopper
SH-60 Seahawk - (Navy) ASW, SAR
HH-60 Pave Hawk - (USAF) SAR, MEDIVAC
MH-60 Knighthawk - (Navy) Utility chopper
HH-60 Jayhawk - coast guard chopper Air sea rescue and interdiction
VH-60 Presidential Hawk
iirc the AH-60 has been superseded by the MH-60L Direct Action Platform (DAP)

but why would we need so many, we don't have a navy in PR we have the marines that use the UH-1 we dont need the Jayhawk as no maps are in America and we dont have the president in PR either

Re: Black Hawk Types

Posted: 2010-06-20 01:38
by FuzzySquirrel
Hitman.2.5 wrote:well you would hear the sound depression from the rotors before the guns...

There are few different types of S-70 family aircraft:

there is the mentioned AH-60 battle hawk
UH-60 Black Hawk - (Army) utility chopper
SH-60 Seahawk - (Navy) ASW, SAR
HH-60 Pave Hawk - (USAF) SAR, MEDIVAC
MH-60 Knighthawk - (Navy) Utility chopper
HH-60 Jayhawk - coast guard chopper Air sea rescue and interdiction
VH-60 Presidential Hawk
iirc the AH-60 has been superseded by the MH-60L Direct Action Penetrator (DAP)

but why would we need so many, we don't have a navy in PR we have the marines that use the UH-1 we dont need the Jayhawk as no maps are in America and we dont have the president in PR either
Don't forget the MH-60 is used by the 160th SOAR too (spec opz man!)

Re: Black Hawk Types

Posted: 2010-06-20 01:39
by Hitman.2.5
FuzzySquirrel wrote:Don't forget the MH-60 is used by the 160th SOAR too (spec opz man!)
oh.. yeah :P 1337 mini-gunZzzzz

Re: Black Hawk Types

Posted: 2010-06-20 01:39
by Peeta
FuzzySquirrel wrote:Hmm...Let's check the *** List.



Dang, Another Resuggestion, If only we had a tool to search for stuff like this. Oh wait..........
d00d, stickies are overrated. No one reads d3m, why sh0uld 1?

Re: Black Hawk Types

Posted: 2010-06-20 01:41
by Hitman.2.5
Fighter wrote:d00d, stickies are overrated. No one reads d3m, why sh0uld 1?
are letters over rated too?

Re: Black Hawk Types

Posted: 2010-06-20 01:43
by Infantry1242
Hitman.2.5 wrote:well you would hear the sound depression from the rotors before the guns...

There are few different types of S-70 family aircraft:

there is the mentioned AH-60 battle hawk
UH-60 Black Hawk - (Army) utility chopper
SH-60 Seahawk - (Navy) ASW, SAR
HH-60 Pave Hawk - (USAF) SAR, MEDIVAC
MH-60 Knighthawk - (Navy) Utility chopper
HH-60 Jayhawk - coast guard chopper Air sea rescue and interdiction
VH-60 Presidential Hawk
iirc the AH-60 has been superseded by the MH-60L Direct Action Penetrator (DAP)

but why would we need so many, we don't have a navy in PR we have the marines that use the UH-1 we dont need the Jayhawk as no maps are in America and we dont have the president in PR either
Maps do take place in America,and im pretty sure they are making some more.The one is Silent Eagle,but seriously,you want to get into the faction talk,you could say it's a joint ops for all i care.The Presidential Hawk,really i never said anything about a President man.Really,do you actually think the US puts miniguns on every Black Hawk?

Re: Black Hawk Types

Posted: 2010-06-20 01:46
by FuzzySquirrel
Infantry1242 wrote:Maps do take place in America,and im pretty sure they are making some more.The one is Silent Eagle,but seriously,you want to get into the faction talk,you could say it's a joint ops for all i care.The Presidential Hawk,really i never said anything about a President man.Really,do you actually think the US puts miniguns on every Black Hawk?
1) Silent Eagle is in Russia?
2) UH-60's are mostly armed with M240's but theres no suitable model yet, so we use the M134's for a place holder.

(searching could have also answered that question.)

Re: Black Hawk Types

Posted: 2010-06-20 01:46
by Hitman.2.5
Infantry1242 wrote:Maps do take place in America,and im pretty sure they are making some more.The one is Silent Eagle,but seriously,you want to get into the faction talk,you could say it's a joint ops for all i care.The Presidential Hawk,really i never said anything about a President man.Really,do you actually think the US puts miniguns on every Black Hawk?
HEY! I was just stating the different types of "Hawk" not saying that u want them in... It wasnt a Dig at you... take a pill
and really does Silent eagle take place in the US? Really? The Russians have a perfect Base in the US and the USAF have to settle with a poxy little abandoned airfield i think not

Re: Black Hawk Types

Posted: 2010-06-20 01:48
by Rhino
Silent Eagle is Eastern Europe..... :roll:

Locking this topic for resuggestion and if you bothered to do a quick search you would find something along the lines that Blackhawks with Rocket pods are not very common and as such would be quite pointless making for PR.

Locked.