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Hi everyone,

This is more a question than a feedback ( I don't know where to post, but I'll do it here since it's infantry-related. ) and the question is;
Will there be more difference in the armies?

With difference I mean; USA Army and US Marines. These are the only two in-game who have this kind of subdivision. Because they are divised by that they also have other kinds of weapons and scopes,etc.. wich is really nice to see. But it's kinda regrettable that the other armies are not like that wich makes them boring at a point.

Ty.

I doubt it tbh, though I know there are a couple of comfacs that will be putting a little slant on it, e.g. norwegian home guard/ regular army

the USA and USMC are separate branches of the military in the US, different everything from body armour, to vehicles.

the British on the other hand have the Royal Marines as part of the Royal Navy with a slightly more special forces face than the British Army, though basic equipment seems to be the same apart from notable differences such as aircraft varients and vehicles like the Viking and Warthog.

so its gotta be done if appropriate, but its the maps for each nation that make that nation interesting imo

Ask yourself, what other factions could be realistically split like US army and USMC ?

Maybe MEC as they are fictions...

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gazzthompson wrote:Ask yourself, what other factions could be realistically split like US army and USMC ?

Maybe MEC as they are fictions...

Well, each country has a thing called 'military forces' and it's subdivised in smaller 'groups' like ground troops, air troops, naval troops,etc..
And believe it or not, these are also divised in several smaller 'groups' like, for examples;

*Russian Ground Forces
-Basic warfare ( the basic troops with not that large variation of weapons )
-Advanced warfare ( advanced troops with a bigger variation of weapons )
-Artillery and missile agency ( artillery and ground to air missiles )
-Basic armoured warfare ( light kind of tanks with less experience,etc )
-Advanced armoured warfare ( heavy tanks with more experience,etc )
-Spetznaz GRU ( specialised group that can be found in battle merged with other of the above groups )
-Naval troop forces ( wich are similar to the USA Marines )

This is an example of only the Ground Forces and though it's not complete yet.
Each of them has ( like USA does ) 'different' types of weapons/arsenals/uniforms,etc..
It would be nice to see the difference between them since we are not little kids that take the word "ARMY" so general.

I don't know about the British army stuff, but I'm sure there is something similar too it like the Royal-army,etc..

So making these 'factions' could bring up a better experience of gaming. Like how I know, the armoured forces of Russia don't have a big choice of weapons while the advanced ones have wich can be introduced ingame. ( by saying 'armoured forces' I don't mean that it exist only of tanks and other armoured vehicles, there are ofcourse ussual inf. involved ).

I don't know about the British army stuff, but I'm sure there is something similar too it like the Royal-army,etc..

we don't call it the royal army since the army was involved in the English civil war which teh Royalists lost to teh Parliamentarians

I think some of those bits you talk about like artillery, yeah everyone has an artillery regiment etc, e.g. Brits have the Royal Horse Arty as an example, however these don't work by themselves, they work in conjunction with the ground troops.

so, the US Army Team on silent eagle for example is the airbourne with the cavalry, kashan its cavalry with maybe an infantry division, USMC on muttrah is an expeditionary force.

MrDontGive@Faq wrote:whot do u think???

I think it's a terrible idea, and mostly off topic for this thread as it is a suggestion. The special forces kits were lonewolftastic and this would promote much gaiety like the old M95 and M82 sniper rifles did on OGT & Kashan & Mestia.

I got my hopes up because I thought it was a thread about functional asymmetry, but it's actually a post about creating more factions that look different but are basically identical.

Truism wrote:I got my hopes up because I thought it was a thread about functional asymmetry, but it's actually a post about creating more factions that look different but are basically identical.

well truism, i think this thread needs a good old ninjaing, so lets DO talk about the difference in the national characteristics of warfare.

i cant speak for other factions but i hold high hopes that the ADF comfac will give a good representation to the Australian Light Infantry doctrine.

moved to suggestion forums where such belongs

No sub factions. New factions are better and as a fin I suggest FDF. Becouse our infantry use 7.62x39 AR and any other faction doestn't use it in PR. Only few insurgents and hamas men choose ak-47 (always 74)so it would be we cool to use our RK62. I there is some other country that uses only 7.62x39 please tell me.

anglomanii wrote:well truism, i think this thread needs a good old ninjaing, so lets DO talk about the difference in the national characteristics of warfare.

i cant speak for other factions but i hold high hopes that the ADF comfac will give a good representation to the Australian Light Infantry doctrine.

Just changing the squad sizes and kit limits/types for each faction would make a massive difference. I think squads are hardcoded to 6 though and the reuestable kit menu has to be the same for every team.

[R-CON]Rudd wrote: the USA and USMC are separate branches of the military in the US, different everything from body armour, to vehicles.

USAr and USMC use the same body armor ( interceptor ), they both use the same weapons except for a couple of thing ( ex ; sniper rifle ) same vehicle, except for APC/IFV, etc... Whats mainly diff those 2 is they're bread and butter. USMC is an amphibious invasion force, they go first, they are use as world firefighter. USAr is not used for such mission.

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Hotrod525 wrote:USAr and USMC use the same body armor ( interceptor ), they both use the same weapons except for a couple of thing ( ex ; sniper rifle ) same vehicle, except for APC/IFV, etc... Whats mainly diff those 2 is they're bread and butter. USMC is an amphibious invasion force, they go first, they are use as world firefighter. USAr is not used for such mission.

Slightly different tho right?

US army:
Improved Outer Tactical Vest - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

USMC:
Modular Tactical Vest - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Hotrod525 wrote:USAr and USMC use the same body armor ( interceptor ), they both use the same weapons except for a couple of thing ( ex ; sniper rifle ) same vehicle, except for APC/IFV, etc... Whats mainly diff those 2 is they're bread and butter. USMC is an amphibious invasion force, they go first, they are use as world firefighter. USAr is not used for such mission.

USA's primary weapon is the M4, primary tank is the M1A2, airpower is limited to helicopters.

USMCs primary weapon is the M16A4, primary tank is the M1A1, and they run attack aircraft along with helicopters and light transport planes.

They also issue different camouflage schemes, as the USA was using ACU (now moving to multicam) and the marines use MARPAT.


They're nowhere near identical even in equipment, and both are very sizeable organizations, which is quite possibly why so much time has been spent by the DEVs making clear distinctions between the two ingame. According to wikipedia, the USMC is 4/5 the size of the entire British Armed forces (204,000 vs 250,000 on active duty in each).

There are other factions that could use fleshing out for their multiple military arms of course, but there's no reason it should happen to every single faction. Where appropriate, and when the work can be done, it will be.

If you really want to see armies with more distinctions between their various branches, learn to model/skin/export and do some work yourself.

Actually, the Royal Marines would be a good sub-faction of the British Army. I don't think they use heavy vehicles and have smaller squads than the regulars.

Looy wrote:Actually, the Royal Marines would be a good sub-faction of the British Army. I don't think they use heavy vehicles and have smaller squads than the regulars.

the only huge thing that would change gameplay on teh Brit team with RM is the viking/warthog, but we can't have that until someone figures out how to have a reliable trailer ingame.

it would be nice to feature the RM ingame as just a subset of textures, e.g. teh lynx would say "Royal Marines" the merlin might be in Royal Navy paint, pop a british weapon on the RHIB.

IRL they have a bit more of an SF role, but I don't see the problem as including them as more general troops ingame since it would just be a few different textures, which I expect are all going to be redone one day anyway to give eh Brits vbf2 soldiers bodies again.

LOL MEC marines/Airforce could be freakin awesome

I gotta say for Russia
VDV would be awesome if implemented right I just hope they dont have blue berets in combat like they portray in the movies

but of course they have a lot of similar equipment vehicles are different though