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Ammo in Machine guns...
Posted: 2010-08-11 09:58
by superhunty
Hi guys.
Does anyone actually know how much ammo there is per magazine for the all the machine guns in game.
With rifles I have a very good idea about when ammo is running low but with machine guns (mounted or LMG) I havn't got a clue and they always seem to run out when im not expecting it!
A list would be fantastic!
Also anybody got any tips for an easy way to judge how much ammo per magazine you have left?
Re: Ammo in Machine guns...
Posted: 2010-08-11 10:33
by Moonlight
Uhm, that should be 200 ammo box for SAWs, 50 for Russian, 200 for the militia and Taliban one (provided you have just 3 magazines ), 75 drum in Chineese one and 100 (i think) in MEC's and IDF's LMGs.
As for mounted .50 calls it should be 100 per box
Re: Ammo in Machine guns...
Posted: 2010-08-11 10:33
by Gammlgandalf13
I think 100 is the default for .50 cal?

SAW is 200 as far as i know.
Re: Ammo in Machine guns...
Posted: 2010-08-11 10:43
by Snazz
Moonlight wrote:50 for Russian PKM, 200 for the militia and Taliban one
Aren't they all using the exact same PKM?
Re: Ammo in Machine guns...
Posted: 2010-08-11 10:49
by Moonlight
I think they're not using the same ammo clips for it. Can't tell for sure though.
Re: Ammo in Machine guns...
Posted: 2010-08-11 10:50
by superhunty
See for such a simple question there is actually quite a lot of confusion!

Re: Ammo in Machine guns...
Posted: 2010-08-11 10:50
by Ford_Jam
Snazz wrote:Aren't they all using the exact same PKM?
They are and it definitely isn't 50 rounds

I'd say 100 rounds.
And the Negev is surely 200 rounds like the SAW isn't it?
Re: Ammo in Machine guns...
Posted: 2010-08-11 10:54
by dtacs
Something about the MG3 seems awfully low, that thing runs out of ammo incredibly fast.
Re: Ammo in Machine guns...
Posted: 2010-08-11 10:55
by Cheditor
MG3 is 50 rounds i believe, but that does seem awfully low :/
Re: Ammo in Machine guns...
Posted: 2010-08-11 10:57
by Excavus
- FN Minimi (US LMG, UK LMG and found in fixed positions) = 200 rounds
- C9A2 (CA LMG, G-Wagon) = 200 rounds
- Negev (IDF LMG) = 200 rounds
- RPK (INS LMG, front seat of technicals, fixed positions) = 75 or 40 rounds
- QBB-95 (CN LMG and found in fixed positions) = 100 or 75 rounds
- PKM (RU, MIL, TAL, INS MMG) = 100 rounds
- MG3 (MEC MMG, found on Leopard 2A6s) = 100 or 75 rounds
- M2HB (US, UK HMG, found on HMMVW, M1A2, various other vehicles, and MG nests) = 100 rounds
- Kord (Mi-8/Mi-17 HMG) = 100 rounds
- DShK (Found on technicals, T-62s, and MG nests) = 100 rounds
- NSV (Found on T-72s) = 50 rounds
- L7 GPMG (Found on UK Landrovers) = 100 rounds
- Type 85 (Found on Type 98 tank, Z-8 helicopter, and MG nests) = 100 rounds
I think I got them all.
Re: Ammo in Machine guns...
Posted: 2010-08-11 11:00
by superhunty
Excavus wrote:FN Minimi (US LMG, UK LMG and found in fixed positions) = 200 rounds
C9A2 (CA LMG, G-Wagon) = 200 rounds
PKM (RU, MIL, TAL, INS MMG) = 100 rounds
QBB-95 (CN LMG and found in fixed positions) = 100 or 75 rounds
MG3 (MEC MMG) = 100 rounds
M2HB (US, UK HMG, found on HMMVW, M1A2, various other vehicles, and MG nests) = 100 rounds
Kord (Mi-8/Mi-17 HMG) = 100 (or 50?) rounds
DShK (Found on technicals, T-62s, and MG nests) = 100 rounds
NSV (Found on T-72s) = 100 rounds
Negev (IDF LMG) = 200 rounds
L7 GPMG (Found on UK Landrovers) = 100 rounds
RPK (INS LMG, front seat of technicals, fixed positions) = 75 or 40 rounds
Type 85 (Found on Type 98 tank, Z-8 helicopter, and MG nests) = 100 rounds
I think I got them all.
Legend. But Yeah MG3 seems to run out with about 3 bursts but I dont know whether thats just because of a lack of ammo or incredible rate of fire!
Re: Ammo in Machine guns...
Posted: 2010-08-11 11:03
by Excavus
superhunty wrote:Legend. But Yeah MG3 seems to run out with about 3 bursts but I dont know whether thats just because of a lack of ammo or incredible rate of fire!
Yeah I edited my post. Leopard 2A6 carries 100 rounds I believe, and the handheld version carries 50 rounds.
Re: Ammo in Machine guns...
Posted: 2010-08-11 11:14
by Nehil
superhunty wrote:Legend. But Yeah MG3 seems to run out with about 3 bursts but I dont know whether thats just because of a lack of ammo or incredible rate of fire!
It's because of the ROF. MG3 is about 1,100 rounds per minute while the M249 has about 800 in PR if I recall correctly. The MG3 drum has half of the ammo (or less) the SAW has, but you get 6 drums for it. Considering it's a 7.62 aswell, makes it pretty sweet.
I actually prefer smaller magazines/drums for LMGs. Reloading a MG3 you pick will not cost you as much when compared to a SAW.
Re: Ammo in Machine guns...
Posted: 2010-08-11 11:39
by RHYS4190
knowing how much ammo you have in a mag is not much help, not when your firing in large volumes.
find out how many seconds of automatic fire you have, once you figger that out you can just count the seconds, that will give you a better idea.
Re: Ammo in Machine guns...
Posted: 2010-08-11 11:56
by superhunty
RHYS4190 wrote:knowing how much ammo you have in a mag is not much help, not when your firing in large volumes.
find out how many seconds of automatic fire you have, once you figger that out you can just count the seconds, that will give you a better idea.
Not a bad idea but surely its going to be different for every weapon with varying ROF and ammo amounts?
Re: Ammo in Machine guns...
Posted: 2010-08-11 12:04
by DankE_SPB
Excavus wrote:
- RPK (INS LMG, front seat of technicals, fixed positions) = 75 or 40 rounds
40 for handheld
- NSVT on T-72 = 100 rounds
50
Re: Ammo in Machine guns...
Posted: 2010-08-11 12:05
by nedlands1
Excavus wrote:
- MG3 (MEC MMG, found on Leopard 2A6s) = 100 or 50 rounds
I think I got them all.
THe handheld MG3 is uses a 75 round belt ingame. That's enough for 5 seconds of cyclic fire (gun fires at 900 rounds per minute).
Re: Ammo in Machine guns...
Posted: 2010-08-11 13:23
by Chuc
In 1968, Rheinmetall introduced the MG-3; this version externally looks like an MG-1A3. The rate of fire of the MG-1 and MG-2 was considered way too high (they still had almost the original rate of fire of the MG-42, about 1100 rpm), so the weight of the bolt of the MG-3 was almost doubled, reducing the standard rate of fire to 900 rpm. The MG-3, like many GPMGs of the period, has a variable gas regulator, primarily for use when compensating for fouling, but it also allows the rate of fire to be adjusted from 700-1300 rpm
Source:
German Machineguns
However mounted versions in future PR versions will have their cyclic rate upped to 1200rpm and box capacity of 250 rounds, symbolising the use of a lighter bolt with more spare ammunition.
Re: Ammo in Machine guns...
Posted: 2010-08-11 14:08
by Nitneuc
However mounted versions in future PR versions will have their cyclic rate upped to 1200rpm
I thought 900rpm was the maximum ROF for weapons in BF2.
Or is it 600rpm with "batch" of 2 rounds ?