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Switch Sides Indicator
Posted: 2010-08-11 15:56
by Meester
Just like you see who has been teamkilled and who has been disconnected, there should be a message on the top of the screen to indicate who has switched sides. This would help [especially in Insurgency] in hunting those down who are helping the other side.
Re: Switch Sides Indicator
Posted: 2010-08-11 16:24
by goguapsy
+ name the civi killers, please.
Re: Switch Sides Indicator
Posted: 2010-08-11 17:07
by Cassius
Some people are just lame and would play a multiplayer game with god mode if they could. Cheating on a PR server is just lame, you dont get anything for it. If a server is populated by the people with the wrong mindset, play elsewhere, or become part of the community there, so that you can eventually become an admin.
Re: Switch Sides Indicator
Posted: 2010-08-11 18:20
by Zegel
Yeah the whole "find a better server" is a good bit of advice for a lot of problems encountered on various servers, but I've seen this type of stuff happen on Tactical Gamer (in my opinion the best server for consistently awesome team-play). TG has great, responsive admins - Except in this situation, even they can't tell who the culprits are.
I think this would be a solid addition - Public humiliation/flaming by peers tends to be enough to keep most people in line, failing kick/bans.
Re: Switch Sides Indicator
Posted: 2010-08-11 20:15
by Acemantura
Yeah, here at CIA, we support this measure as a tool in which admin and player alike can make sure everything is kosher during team play.
For that matter, at least within the insurgency game mode, is there a way to stop or at least hinder heavy assets like the HAT and Engie kit from being taken.
I would love for a way to recall the kit to some unknown location or an admin message to point out that a player has the kit. Perhaps In the same fashion as in Vanilla where a kill was registered with a specific weapon/vehicle.
Re: Switch Sides Indicator
Posted: 2010-08-11 20:44
by Startrekern
The only way this would be good was if it was via a script only visible to admins. The script could make the event that occurs when teamswitching happens be added to the log (visible from bf2cc/daemon)
Re: Switch Sides Indicator
Posted: 2010-08-11 23:59
by Turner
I dont switch teams to cheat, I do it because I love the M16's. They're perfect on Muttrah

Re: Switch Sides Indicator
Posted: 2010-08-12 00:30
by burghUK
Whats wrong with teamswitching? I hate being insurgents and try to switch. If your gonna be playing for fun why should you have to put up with being on the team you don't enjoy.
Re: Switch Sides Indicator
Posted: 2010-08-12 00:33
by LithiumFox
Think about those of us who play with our friends. Hey im in a server. Hey, 4 of my friends just joined.. and they're all on the other team. They have less players.... Hmmmmm > >
Re: Switch Sides Indicator
Posted: 2010-08-12 00:34
by Rudd
crAck_sh0t wrote:Whats wrong with teamswitching? I hate being insurgents and try to switch. If your gonna be playing for fun why should you have to put up with being on the team you don't enjoy.
generally it can be detrimental to the server, if you switch autobalance will move someone in to your place, and maybe that person was playing with friends, or was insurgent last round...
would probably be a nice touch if there was a way of reviewing who has switched rather than getting a real time list
so, admin notices its 27 vs 35, console admin.switcherlist in order of who switched last
5-a
4-b
3-c
2-d
1-e
admin then can start buildling lists of constant offenders/notice who is switching to be with friends etc. Or even notice the nice people who switch in order to intentionally balance teams.
Re: Switch Sides Indicator
Posted: 2010-08-12 01:32
by karambaitos
[R-CON]Rudd wrote:generally it can be detrimental to the server, if you switch autobalance will move someone in to your place, and maybe that person was playing with friends, or was insurgent last round...
would probably be a nice touch if there was a way of reviewing who has switched rather than getting a real time list
so, admin notices its 27 vs 35, console admin.switcherlist in order of who switched last
5-a
4-b
3-c
2-d
1-e
admin then can start buildling lists of constant offenders/notice who is switching to be with friends etc. Or even notice the nice people who switch in order to intentionally balance teams.
smells hardcoded to me, good ideas always are -_-
Re: Switch Sides Indicator
Posted: 2010-08-12 02:20
by Zegel
Either I misinterpretted the original post, or y'all did. The problem is not with teamswitching - We've all got buddies we play with, and that's totally fine in my opinion.
What I think this suggestion was getting at was keeping people from REPEATEDLY switching to and from the Insurgent team so as to gain cache locations. It happens when pubbies are frustrated with the length of a insurgency round and try to speed things up for the next map.
No one cares if anyone switches. I only give a damn when I see the same guy switching three+ times, and then having three undetected caches explode with one or two blue-force players in the area.
Re: Switch Sides Indicator
Posted: 2010-08-12 03:41
by doop-de-doo
I just put a similar suggestion on another thread. It was to remove the players' teamswitching ability and if you need to be switched to the other team, you can ask an admin.
Re: Switch Sides Indicator
Posted: 2010-08-12 05:16
by AfterDune
karambaitos wrote:smells hardcoded to me, good ideas always are -_-
No, can easily be done with a Python script.
doop-de-doo wrote:I just put a similar suggestion on another thread. It was to remove the players' teamswitching ability and if you need to be switched to the other team, you can ask an admin.
If you do that, you can never switch if no admins are online.
Re: Switch Sides Indicator
Posted: 2010-08-12 08:27
by Epipen
If the purpose of having a switch sides indicator is to
prevent retard players from cheating, it's not gonna work, those guys use teamspeak too, i think that this problem is impossible to be solved...
For me, the fun part is Search and find the cache, i don't know why these guys like to cheat, removing the fun part of the insurgency mode....
i liked rudd's suggestion, i hate when i'm playing with my friends and get switched by auto balance because someone from the other team switched....
Re: Switch Sides Indicator
Posted: 2010-08-12 21:51
by Meester
Arma 2 has it. A simple 'Meester has switched to Insurgents' noticable by everyone, shouldn't be too hard to achieve and is as realistic and practical as the 'Meester has tked someone' message which everyone can also see.