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Unloading your gear prior to battle

Posted: 2010-08-29 03:31
by Coolio
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What if we can drop our extra equipment prior to entering a battle? This is what I think should be done;

1. You bring up the menu and there's an "unload gear" option.

2. If you select it, you have to stand still for 15-20 seconds to unload your gear. You can cancel anytime by moving.

3. Your extra equipment will be on the ground. For example, the regular rifleman kit will drop the shovel, ammo bag, binocular, medpack, extra magazines and extra grenades. The "unloaded" rifleman will only carry the main rifle, 2 extra magazines, knife, and one frag grenade. You can pick up your equipment later.

4. By dropping your extra gear, visually you are a smaller target (IIRC the Russians carry a giant sleeping bag), you should be able to move faster, have more stamina, and the deviation system should take less time to steady.

By implementing this into the game, you would create;

- An interesting twist into the gameplay
- Much better close quarter firefights

What do you guys think?

Re: Unloading your gear prior to battle

Posted: 2010-08-29 04:08
by Foxxy
Sounds cool but probably hardcoded, also in RL im pretty sure soldiers dont just drop their gear on the ground. That would leave the enemy with your gear if they happen to find it

Re: Unloading your gear prior to battle

Posted: 2010-08-29 04:12
by Conman51
Probably hard coded but in PR there really is no point

When soldiers drop some gear off before a fight its usually stuff like food extra clothing or some extra non combat stuff like that

In PR there is none of this and all the stuff you carry is for combat.



Maybe in PR2 though......

Re: Unloading your gear prior to battle

Posted: 2010-08-29 04:21
by Pariel
Most soldiers go into combat with the gear that you have in your slots (and a whole lot more), so I'm not sure this is very realistic.

Granted, the huge backpacks on some classes have gear that would be dropped in the event of a firefight, but I don't believe their hitboxes are any different, so in terms of game play I'm not sure there'd be a difference.

My $0.02 for what it's worth.

Re: Unloading your gear prior to battle

Posted: 2010-08-29 04:39
by 0331SgtSpyUSMC
Using a movie as a reference is not a good idea. You don't drop your gear in the middle firefight and not before it. You have your load out, you carry it. You could keep your alice pack in a HMMWV, but you will never just drop it in a random place to pickup later. Your load-out changes depending on a type of mission you have for the day, week, but for the most part you will carry same shit. You have to sign for that gear, you loose it, you buy it :) ( and you really don't want to buy it) P.S. Only reason soldiers in the movie dropped their gear is because they were making an assault on a fixed position, it would only be practical if those were the only hostiles in the area and limited firepower on soldiers side help them get a bit of leverage in speed I suppose. Still wouldn't be practical in the game. You leave, comeback wounded, and someone jacked you shit. Think about it

Re: Unloading your gear prior to battle

Posted: 2010-08-29 06:07
by Startrekern
Not hard coded in the least. It could work like the 'drop kit' system where it spawns the other kit on the ground and you pick it up, the 'lighter' kit. There are lots of issues with doing it that way but it could work.

Re: Unloading your gear prior to battle

Posted: 2010-08-29 06:27
by Bringerof_D
If PR player models carried ruck sacks, maybe. but the current models now mostly only carry a small day pack and whatever tactical gear which will never be dropped at any time. Only the russians atm seem to carry their rucks or at least part of the ruck, but even in that case it would not take 15 seconds, and it would not take away any of things in your weapon slots. It would take only 2 seconds at most (suicide straps were invented for a reason, so you can drop your kit in an emergency) even manually removing the pack would only take 3 seconds tops.

Re: Unloading your gear prior to battle

Posted: 2010-08-29 06:33
by bloodthirsty_viking
i thought the sprint speed and such was bound to the player, not the kit?

Re: Unloading your gear prior to battle

Posted: 2010-08-29 08:13
by Arnoldio
In that scene of SPR they are running up the hill to a MG nest, they did not need extra ammo, it would just get them killed...

Impossible and completely useless idea, i want all my equipment with me not standing 100m away for some enemy to pick it up.

PR =/= WW2

Re: Unloading your gear prior to battle

Posted: 2010-08-29 08:42
by Spec
This would be very useless. Noone would ever do it. A slight speed increase isn't worth losing everything but your rifle. And what useful is a soldier with only a primary weapon to the squad? What if the area where he dropped his kit gets hot and he can't go right back and get it? It'd be way too risky to drop your equipment in the middle of a combat zone just for a little speed increase.

And yes, this smells hardcoded. You could make it so that you can request a "light rifleman" kit or sth instead, but again, that'd be useless. And yes, that probably wouldn't even effect the speed. So you might as well just get a crewman kit.

Re: Unloading your gear prior to battle

Posted: 2010-08-29 09:01
by sweedensniiperr
i'm sure that soldiers today leave their equipment before a battle, only they leave it in their base(main)

Re: Unloading your gear prior to battle

Posted: 2010-08-29 12:41
by MikeDude
Only Ninjas will.

Re: Unloading your gear prior to battle

Posted: 2010-08-29 12:46
by Rudd
I guess they expected to be able to leave their military equipment lying around, just like you can anywhere in America, you leave your stuff in the street in baltimore and you know it'll be there when you come back from the day spa with your skin all exfoliated n stuff :P

the only advantage ingame would have to be stamina increases, which cannot be done as stamina is set when you spawn not by your kit iirc.

Re: Unloading your gear prior to battle

Posted: 2010-08-29 14:10
by goguapsy
I wouldn't do it... Wait 'till you get surrounded by zombies. You'll need every last drop of scotch ammo if you want to survive endless hordes of enemies and you don't have resupply available... Or any support coming at any time soon...