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Mumble suggestion Radio local speech simultaneous

Posted: 2010-09-23 14:15
by Cassius
Hey, can Mumble be coded the way that what is transmitted on force center is still being transmitted in local speech?

It is more realistic, the squadmembers dont forget halfway in your convo that you are still on the radio and if they are interested, they know what is going to happen and dont rush into the airstrike mortar attack (when it will be avaiable) if you forget to advert everybody.

Re: Mumble suggestion Radio local speech simultaneous

Posted: 2010-09-23 14:31
by Smegburt_funkledink
Yes, this is a sweet idea.

Re: Mumble suggestion Radio local speech simultaneous

Posted: 2010-09-23 15:10
by =Romagnolo=
I like the idea.

Re: Mumble suggestion Radio local speech simultaneous

Posted: 2010-09-23 15:13
by Sgt.BountyOrig
Yes it can, set two keys to be the same but apply them for different functions!

Key : NUM LOCK
Function : Local Radio

Key : NUM LOCK
Function : Squad Leader radio

I am pretty sure this method works, but you need another dedicated Local Radio key to not have to talk to everyone when speaking

Re: Mumble suggestion Radio local speech simultaneous

Posted: 2010-09-23 15:14
by dbzao
You sure this works Sgt.BountyOrig?

Re: Mumble suggestion Radio local speech simultaneous

Posted: 2010-09-23 15:29
by Rhino
This is a really good idea! :D
[R-DEV]dbzao wrote:You sure this works Sgt.BountyOrig?
Even if it dose work, it still has to be set by the player where it's something we should really put into mumble as a forced, default setting that can't be changed :)

Re: Mumble suggestion Radio local speech simultaneous

Posted: 2010-09-23 17:38
by mat552
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Don't go overboard there Rhino, I'd hate for my squadmembers to hear what I really think of them :3

Just set the bindings together automatically and let people change it if they want.

Re: Mumble suggestion Radio local speech simultaneous

Posted: 2010-09-23 19:20
by Redamare
. . . . Wait im a bit confused :D lolol i cant tell between sarcasam and actual thoughts :P ahhaa

your saying ... within a certian distance you hear force center? ( why dont you just use ingame VOIP?)

OR . . . every one around yoru position hears what the squad leader channel people are saying??

. . . in that case .. is it possible to re route the audio coming in from the squad leaders computer to automaticaly play over local speech? SO . . the squad leader hears loud and clear but the squad members around the squad leader also hear the convorsation BUT can not interrupt with their own local speech?

If its possible i say 100% go for it .. I believe there would have to be a whole Mumble update / version switch for this kind of Fix . . . only thing is :) can we get intouch with who ever created mumble .5 and ask them to work on a solution . . . Good idea either way

Re: Mumble suggestion Radio local speech simultaneous

Posted: 2010-09-23 20:24
by goguapsy
Yes this would be pretty sweet... but no way to code mumble so you are forced to have SL kit/Radio or crewman or pilot to use force center, is there?

Re: Mumble suggestion Radio local speech simultaneous

Posted: 2010-09-23 20:26
by Rudd
depends imo, if it sounds really stupid when you hear a player talk on radio and local at the same time when you are near them I dunno.

Re: Mumble suggestion Radio local speech simultaneous

Posted: 2010-09-23 20:32
by Rhino
goguapsy wrote:Yes this would be pretty sweet... but no way to code mumble so you are forced to have SL kit/Radio or crewman or pilot to use force center, is there?
We can code Mumble some what, hence the "Mumble PR edition", its just a hard job to code.

[R-DEV]Rudd wrote:depends imo, if it sounds really stupid when you hear a player talk on radio and local at the same time when you are near them I dunno.
Would have to test it to see if its like and see if we could code it to only play on the radio if your out of voice range but most of the time no one is going to be in the same area when talking over radio.

Re: Mumble suggestion Radio local speech simultaneous

Posted: 2010-09-23 20:53
by Sniperdog
You can already do this by assigning 2 local speech keys, one of them being the same as your SL radio key.

Re: Mumble suggestion Radio local speech simultaneous

Posted: 2010-09-23 20:55
by Sgt.BountyOrig
@Rudd

Only nearby SL's would hear you twice ;)

Re: Mumble suggestion Radio local speech simultaneous

Posted: 2010-09-23 21:06
by Arnoldio
Nice yeah. I know we can set it atm but this should be default stuff.

Re: Mumble suggestion Radio local speech simultaneous

Posted: 2010-09-23 23:59
by goguapsy
Sgt.BountyOrig wrote:@Rudd

Only nearby SL's would hear you twice ;)
Which afaik wouldn't be an issue, right? I suppose there is no (botherable) latency difference between force center and local speech... right?

Re: Mumble suggestion Radio local speech simultaneous

Posted: 2010-09-24 00:33
by MikeDude
mat552 wrote::\

Don't go overboard there Rhino, I'd hate for my squadmembers to hear what I really think of them :3

Just set the bindings together automatically and let people change it if they want.
You shouldn't even discuss that in the SL channel at all..

Re: Mumble suggestion Radio local speech simultaneous

Posted: 2010-09-24 00:57
by mat552
mikeyboyz wrote:You shouldn't even discuss that in the SL channel at all..
Why not? I discuss my opinions of other SLs in local mumble :P

I know some people are complaining about me behind my back due to some poorly managed keybinds, so I don't feel any guilt about doing it back.

Re: Mumble suggestion Radio local speech simultaneous

Posted: 2010-09-24 00:59
by Ford_Jam
This would lead to a lot of confusion
Everyone around you not in the SL channel will be like "who the hell are you talking too?" :p

Re: Mumble suggestion Radio local speech simultaneous

Posted: 2010-09-24 01:26
by MikeDude
mat552 wrote:Why not? I discuss my opinions of other SLs in local mumble :P

I know some people are complaining about me behind my back due to some poorly managed keybinds, so I don't feel any guilt about doing it back.
SL channel is for important information only.. talking about your squad members is your problem. Not of the other sl's. There shouldn't even be a conversation on the SL channel.. Just requests and answers.

Ford_Jam wrote:This would lead to a lot of confusion
Everyone around you not in the SL channel will be like "who the hell are you talking too?" :p
You can see a big number above a SL. Also you should know who the SL's are. If you hear a SL talking to hisself, you will automatically know that it will be on the radio.

Wouldn't add confusion at all..

Re: Mumble suggestion Radio local speech simultaneous

Posted: 2010-09-24 12:16
by AnimalMother.
mikeyboyz wrote:You can see a big number above a SL. Also you should know who the SL's are. If you hear a SL talking to hisself, you will automatically know that it will be on the radio.

Wouldn't add confusion at all..
especially seeing as if i know i'm gonig to have a bit of back and forth with another SL i'll tell my squad to be quiet

the only i see atm is in jets/helicopters when you unlink talk in SL channel and then ofc everyone hears you... though i think it's a small problem, pros(awesomeness) > con