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Now I understand that there have been about three threads suggesting an Iranian faction in this very section in the last year, but I feel that considering all those attempts died in the water, a fresh thread with some real content was warranted. Now the basic argument for an Iranian faction goes like this (thanks to Storm-Mama for it ):

Iran is a military powerhouse in the Middle East. Counted with paramilitary forces its got the largest armed forces in the world. If any middle eastern nation deserves to get its own faction in PR rather than being part of the MEC it's Iran.

An Iranian faction could act as a likely OpFor for the Israelis, NATO and even the MEC. They make use of a plethora of foreign technology from various eras, as well as some interesting indigenous designs. Luckily most of this stuff is already in PR, including the AH-1Y/Z SuperCobra, MiG-29, SU-25, T-72, SVD, G3, RPG-7 and BMP-2 (as of 0.95 if I'm not mistaken?). What I propose is the addition of either or both of these: an Islamic Republic of Iran Army (IRIA) faction and an Iranian Revolutionary Guards Corps (IRGC) faction. The main work required for both would be this:

• UVW mapping, texturing and animating of Khaybar Series of Assault rifles
• UVW mapping, texturing and addition of CQ 5.56 parts onto current PR M16A1
• Addition of M203 onto CQ 5.56
• Addition of M203 onto G3 (low priority, HK79 can suffice for now)
• Duplication and reskinning of vehicles
• Reskinning of MEC soldiers with BDU and 3 Colour desert camo
• HUD/Localisation work

I've made some changes and additions to Koroush47's design plan, considering he hasn't been on in a few months, I'd like to take charge of the push .

Design plan is here

Basically what I'd like to do right now is have a look at interest and see what people think of the idea right now. Considering two major assets that will define the faction are already well into production (by myself), I'd say progress has been made. If I were to finish the faction though, I would need people who are adept at skinning and someone who is familiar with the inner-workings of PR to get this thing really going. That's all for today, apologies to the moderators if this is one too many Iranian faction proposals.

Cheers,
Nick

Whit an BSS DEV leading it, how can this fail?

More factions means more imerssion.

Good luck with it mate.

Why take USI ...MP-2 model,if PR team have own BMP-2 model.Just need a little reskin.
I don't think so it's good idea,cuz we have MEC.

'[IS-DEV wrote:Nick;1448662']BMP-2 (as of 0.95 if I'm not mistaken?).

No, it won't make v0.95

Good luck with this faction, as a community faction lead, I can tell you that you will have to face a huge amount of work if you want to bring this to PR. Gather some reliable and dedicated people aroung you and you'll be able to develop your faction.

Even if you are skilled in something you can't succeed if you're alone.

Edit : I read your list again, some new maps would be nice as well.

[R-DEV]Hauteclocque wrote:No, it won't make v0.95

Good luck with this faction, as a community faction lead, I can tell you that you will have to face a huge amount of work if you want to bring this to PR. Gather some reliable and dedicated people aroung you and you'll be able to develop your faction.

Even if you are skilled in something you can't succeed if you're alone.

Actually i can join if needed,not so many job with modeling/texturing,but need more mappers,faction without maps sux

samogon100500 wrote:Why take USI CraptMP-2 model,if PR team have own BMP-2 model.Just need a little reskin.
I don't think so it's good idea,cuz we have MEC.

Are you honestly telling me this looks like ****?

http://usi.blacksandstudio.com/wp-conte ... 2_bmp2.jpg

Wolfi did a kickass skin on that. Its highly disrespectful to call someone's work **** like that, especially when it is clearly not.

I think its definitely a good idea, I just think the one main thing missing is maps. Sure you could replace Kashan etc with Iran, but new maps would be a much better approach. - Ninja'd by Hauteclocque

Once I get my current projects done I can lend a hand with UVWing and limited texturing if needed.

Tim270 wrote:Are you honestly telling me this looks like ****?

http://usi.blacksandstudio.com/wp-conte ... 2_bmp2.jpg

Wolfi did a kickass skin on that. Its highly disrespectful to call someone's work **** like that, especially when it is clearly not.

I think its definitely a good idea, I just think the one main thing missing is maps. Sure you could replace Kashan etc with Iran, but new maps would be a much better approach. - Ninja'd by Hauteclocque

Once I get my current projects done I can lend a hand with UVWing and limited texturing if needed.

Yeah this is .... =)
They not looks like as BMP on draws,looks not realistic...

I could voulonteer as a mapper...that is as soon as I get my *** back to BF2Editor (yes Hangman...in my editor the map needs some dosage of dust before it gets something new )

samogon100500 wrote:Yeah this is **** =)
They not looks like as BMP on draws,looks not realistic...

Samogon, please, moderate your comments...I would be really happy if you could produce such assets modeling and texturing wise, it's not the case yet.

Tim270 wrote:Once I get my current projects done I can lend a hand with UVWing and limited texturing if needed.

That would be great Tim. I'll hit you up via PM if I need anything done in the near future.

CroCop wrote:I could voulonteer as a mapper...that is as soon as I get my *** back to BF2Editor (yes Hangman...in my editor the map needs some dosage of dust before it gets something new )

Again, thanks for the interest , I wouldn't wanna poach any maps off the MEC so having something for these guys is top priority. Any sorta Middle-Eastern urban map would be good for the IRGC. Hit me up via PM if you wanna discuss more.

I think Iran is a good idea as conventional and real OpFor faction.
We miss conventional OpFor factions these days. In WW2, for example, we would have more interesting OpFor (e.g.: Germany). Now it's everyone agaisnt evil Middle Eastern, evil Chinese or evil Russian people.
I can't have any idea about an OpFor faction that isn't Chinese, Russian or Middle Eastern based.
A good thing that Iran faction would have is the Khaybar assault rifle series.

[R-DEV]Hauteclocque wrote:Samogon, please, moderate your comments...I would be really happy if you could produce such assets modeling and texturing wise, it's not the case yet.

Sory just drink some alcohol today

samogon100500 wrote:Sory just drink some alcohol today

lol yep I'm sure you did.


BTW, the AH-1Z/W can be removed from your list and be replaced with a older AH-1 model (possibly F or J), or the Panha 2091, a indigenous copy and upgrade of the J. Iran never received later models such as the W, let alone the still developmental Z.

I've had a shot at reskinning the USI AH-1S. I'm aware that the Iranians actually use the J-Model, which is twin-engined, but I'd prefer to use this one for two reasons:

• The AH-1S is closer to the AH-1J in terms of weaponry and instruments
• The VBF2 AH-1Z has annoying UV maps which do not allow for the placement of non-symmetrical insignia or lettering.

Please note I haven't spoken to USI about permissions yet. You should consider this work a mere piece of concept-art which is subject to change or removal. Anyways, pics


Here's an actual J-Model

CroCop wrote:I could voulonteer as a mapper...that is as soon as I get my *** back to BF2Editor (yes Hangman...in my editor the map needs some dosage of dust before it gets something new )

Yea you thought i wouldn't see this comment hehehehe. Get back to Fohorem!

But yea this faction would need some new maps. Perhaps a re-up iraq iran war scenario? Mec vs Iran?

I've now got permission from Guedoe to use the AH-1S, so I'll get around to touching up the colours on the skin soon, right now it's a tad too yellow. I've also made some progress on the Khaybar (think UVW maps), will post some shots on the relevant topic when it's ready for show.

I'd rather add Iran to the MEC then replace the MEC with Iran at this point but I'm actually rather interested to see what ya come up with.

I think the idea is to have Iran and MEC seperatly...

[R-DEV]Rudd wrote:I'd rather add Iran to the MEC then replace the MEC with Iran at this point but I'm actually rather interested to see what ya come up with.

Bye bye unrealistic Mi28!Russia never sold Mi28 at this time.
Old cobra looks better.
And yes i found it
Equipment of the Iranian Army - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Looks like no more MTLBs from this team,BMP2 to hard for AAV7!Question of the day - what needed,remove MTLB for realism or don't touch it for gameplay!I think M113 can be used with BTR60(Let se on this situation in game - how it's big big useless /////)
-Suggestion about MGS - why not make MG3 as scoped MG and PKM as unscoped
Reasons - 1)Both guns use in IRAN army
2)50mag it's not seriosly for MG
-AKM(S) will be great weapon for medic,HAT,AA and other unscoped kits,cuz it's better that long G3

Ah and last if needed I can make model of DShKM Tripod for deployable HMG.

Edit forget about jets - imo Figther MiG29(F14 2seat),Bomber F4 or F14,Attack jet Su-25!

samogon100500 wrote:Bye bye unrealistic Mi28!Russia never sold Mi28 at this time.
Old cobra looks better.
And yes i found it
Equipment of the Iranian Army - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Looks like no more MTLBs from this team,BMP2 to hard for AAV7!Question of the day - what needed,remove MTLB for realism or don't touch it for gameplay!I think M113 can be used with BTR60(Let se on this situation in game - how it's big big useless /////)
-Suggestion about MGS - why not make MG3 as scoped MG and PKM as unscoped
Reasons - 1)Both guns use in IRAN army
2)50mag it's not seriosly for MG
-AKM(S) will be great weapon for medic,HAT,AA and other unscoped kits,cuz it's better that long G3

Ah and last if needed I can make model of DShKM Tripod for deployable HMG.

Edit forget about jets - imo Figther MiG29(F14 2seat),Bomber F4 or F14,Attack jet Su-25!

Even though its a bit early to discuss exact assets, I think the jets you've suggested would make aviation in the Iranian faction awfully repetitive.

The F-14 and F-4 wouldn't make good choices at all since both are outdated and aren't in Iranian service in higher numbers. The F-4 is a third generation fighter, its far older than any other aircraft in PR, and the F-14 (according to wikipedia) is in service with only 20 operational. Other choices would include the F-5E/F, which the IRIAF has about 70 of. Included are the Saeqeh (which is pretty much a modernized copy of the F-5), the Mirage F-1. Even though the F-5 and Mirage are considered Gen 3 aircraft like the F-4, they aren't flying bricks made to shoot down bombers from long range, they're still potent dogfighter's which display maneuver capability similar to today's fighters.
An appropriate bomber aircraft would be the Su-24, unlike the F-4 and F-14, it actually is made for ground attack. It has provisions for precision guided missiles and bombs, something the F-4 and F-14 lack (for the most part). CAS would be delivered through the Su-25, but they have so little it may be appropriate to consider a alternative.