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M16/M4 irons, front sight

Posted: 2010-10-03 10:21
by Turner
I'm not 100% sure, but the front sight on the irons M16/M4, is a little too thick. From my knowledge, the middle part of the front sight, should be the same width of your target at 300m. This is supposed to be like this to estimate range. Any chance you could make the sight a little thinner?

NOTE: Could this be because of my graphics?

This is info I referenced from, taken from US Marine Corps Common Skills handbook 1B

(2) Front Sight Post Method. The area of the target covered by the rifle?s front sight post can be used to estimate range to a
target. A Marine notes the appearance of the front sight post on a known-distance target. The Marine then uses this as a
guide to determine range over an unknown distance. Because the apparent size of the target changes as the distance to the
target changes, the amount of the target covered by the front sight post varies based on the range. In addition, a Marine's eye
relief and perception of the front sight post affect the amount of the target that is visible. To use this method, a Marine must
apply the following guidelines:
(a) The front sight post covers the width of a man's chest or body at approximately 300 yards/meters.
(b) If the target is less than the width of the front sight post, the target is in excess of 300 yards/meters. Therefore, the rifle?s
BZO cannot be used effectively.
(c) If the target is wider than the front sight post, the target is less than 300 yards/meters and can be engaged point of
aim/point of impact using the rifle?s BZO (figure 5.)
Figure 5

Re: M16/M4 irons, front sight

Posted: 2010-10-03 10:24
by Smiddey723
I agree with the irons on the M$ being too big but the m16 ones are quite good if you ask me + you wouldnt be able to hit anything at 300m with ironsights in PR from my experience

Re: M16/M4 irons, front sight

Posted: 2010-10-03 10:34
by Turner
Smiddey723 wrote:I agree with the irons on the M$ being too big but the m16 ones are quite good if you ask me + you wouldnt be able to hit anything at 300m with ironsights in PR from my experience
The M4/M16 front sight should be about the same since they both use the A2 front sight.

Re: M16/M4 irons, front sight

Posted: 2010-10-03 10:47
by Hotrod525
Turner wrote:The M4/M16 front sight should be about the same since they both use the A2 front sight.
the front sight is closer on M4 than on M16, that why he look bigger.

Re: M16/M4 irons, front sight

Posted: 2010-10-03 10:55
by Turner
Hotrod525 wrote:the front sight is closer on M4 than on M16, that why he look bigger.
The one on the M4 is still too thick, even if it is closer. Plus, the difference between the M16 and M4 shouldn't be that different, since the M4's collapsible stock is pulled out all the way in the animation. The M4/M16 is a lot closer in length because of so.

Re: M16/M4 irons, front sight

Posted: 2010-10-03 10:58
by usmcguy
man its crazy I hit my target everytime with the m16a4 irons.. I think their fine the way they are..

Re: M16/M4 irons, front sight

Posted: 2010-10-03 11:48
by Jigsaw
This is a suggestion, that has been brought up before. There is also a distinct lack of pictoral sources/evidence here to support the suggestion, whilst the creation of the weapon was done with the support and advice of our team of military advisors.

Thus locked.