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German army "HMG"
Posted: 2010-11-08 18:39
by samogon100500
Little question - why german army have M2 Browning HMG?I think he don't use it.May be make for this role MG3 Tripod?Anyway HMG no have 360 degrees rotation,and most of the time they r useless.
P.S I wanna see more MG3s on German army on infantry.
Re: German army "HMG"
Posted: 2010-11-08 19:03
by dtacs
Could be a placeholder, or simply for balance purposes. Wikipedia says they use the M3M on armored vehicles/choppers but theres no point having that when a decent M2 model is already available.
They could get an AGL in the future, who knows.

Re: German army "HMG"
Posted: 2010-11-08 19:11
by goguapsy
dtacs wrote:They could get an AGL in the future, who knows.
I thought the reason we didn't have those for US Army on the CROWs, at least, was due to balance purposes?
Re: German army "HMG"
Posted: 2010-11-08 19:32
by dtacs
The AAV's have them, would make sense for at least one non-re-spawning Stryker to have them as well. Gotta remember it wouldn't have a co-axial at all, and it takes some people ages to get accurate fire with the Mk19.
All speculation of course, what I'm saying is baseless.
Re: German army "HMG"
Posted: 2010-11-08 23:16
by Kothra
The Bundeswehr uses the Browning M2 under the designation "M3M."
Re: German army "HMG"
Posted: 2010-11-09 01:44
by Eddie Baker
Kothra Streamdiver wrote:The Bundeswehr uses the Browning M2 under the designation "M3M."
M3 is a different weapon entirely. It's like an M2 on amphetamines; 1100 rpm.
Re: German army "HMG"
Posted: 2010-11-09 02:08
by Kothra
Oh, it's the GAU-21?
Re: German army "HMG"
Posted: 2010-11-09 02:22
by Eddie Baker
Kothra Streamdiver wrote:Oh, it's the GAU-21?
Yep! M3M is the pintel-mounted version that was adopted as the GAU-21 and the M3P is the pod or integral mount version used on the Avenger SHORAD vehicle, Super Tucano and in various pods (250 rounds, 500 rounds or 250 rounds + 3 70mm rockets).
The Army has been taking the M3Ps off of decommissioned Avengers, taking off the outer "shells" and mounting them on the Kiowa in place of the older XM296 gun pod; they can use the same ammo box and chute, but get about 400 more rpm on it. That kind of cost effective thinking must have ruined someone's career.

Re: German army "HMG"
Posted: 2010-11-09 02:28
by sharpie
[R-DEV]Eddie Baker wrote:It's like an M2 on amphetamines; 1100 rpm.
I would really like to see tha live fired

Re: German army "HMG"
Posted: 2010-11-09 02:51
by Eddie Baker
sharpie wrote:I would really like to see tha live fired
Just type GAU-21 or M3M in YouTube Search
YouTube - GAU-21, Hammering it Home
Re: German army "HMG"
Posted: 2010-11-09 05:33
by samogon100500
dtacs wrote:Could be a placeholder, or simply for balance purposes. Wikipedia says they use the M3M on armored vehicles/choppers but theres no point having that when a decent M2 model is already available.
They could get an AGL in the future, who knows.

Anyway - assumetrical balance better that full balance.Anyway MGs not rotate to 360 deg.
About AGL - they can be makes for every fraction,except some unconventional factions.But MG remove is not so good idea.Looks like it's suggestion,but what about th make GMPG tripod for FOBs,but not more of 2 one type of MGs and no more that 3 of all MGs(Like 2 GMPG,1 HMG/2 HMG,1 GMPG,for German army - 3 GMPG).
If needed I can make MG3 Tripod(Not so many work),but I need references.I think MG3 not so unbalanced gun that M2 - on one hand - faster firerate can be easy kill nme infantry,on other hand - they cannot destroy light vehicles.
