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Crouch in all Seats

Posted: 2010-11-24 19:24
by Shovel
I checked *** and searched, found nothing.

I was wondering about this a few games ago. Since players get shot out of vehicles, they should be able to have some defence from this. Gunners in conventional factions can duck in their seats, so why shouldn't other players? This may be hardcoded, but it's not very unrealitstic IMO.

What do you think?

EDIT: There are a few thing I thought of and some of the responders thought of:


1. Since crouching may only work in seats with weapons, you could give everyone invisible weapons that didnt do anything, allowing them to crouch.

2. Crouch would probably have to be default control key because this would require the least work, just copy and paste code.

Re: Crouch in all Seats

Posted: 2010-11-24 19:29
by boilerrat
I've always wanted this.

It would be just as nice to be able to duck as the driver, at the cost of not being able to see.

Re: Crouch in all Seats

Posted: 2010-11-24 20:01
by Bringerof_D
mini map should also disappear when you hide so people cant drive by that while crouched.

Re: Crouch in all Seats

Posted: 2010-11-24 20:13
by Shovel
That would be good and would stop people from abusing, what about a time limit for crouching, sort of like sprinting, so you could crouch for some time, then would have to wait to croucha again. May be unrealistic, but would prevent people from crouching for a whole ride.

Re: Crouch in all Seats

Posted: 2010-11-24 21:09
by Jordanb716
TheBobJeff wrote:That would be good and would stop people from abusing, what about a time limit for crouching, sort of like sprinting, so you could crouch for some time, then would have to wait to croucha again. May be unrealistic, but would prevent people from crouching for a whole ride.
Hmmm... I dont think thats a good idea. Maybe a delay between getting up and crouching so you can't drive down the street popping your head up and down every second. something tells me this would be possible but probably require way too much time editing every seat on every vehicle for it to work.

Re: Crouch in all Seats

Posted: 2010-11-24 21:25
by Tarantula
i guess this refers only to light transport vehicles and in the front of trucks?

Re: Crouch in all Seats

Posted: 2010-11-24 23:17
by Shovel
Yes. Only for light vehicles (Humvee, Trans Truck, Logic Truck) but not tanks or helis.

Re: Crouch in all Seats

Posted: 2010-11-25 00:28
by Redamare
I think thats a good idea . . . possibly just leaning foward a bit still exposed slightly from the window so realisticaly you can still get hurt but i think it may come in handy . . .if its possible i think it should be discussed

Re: Crouch in all Seats

Posted: 2010-11-25 01:01
by Bluedrake42
Just take away the minimap while crouched, that makes loads of sense to me, I think it would work, also if they made doors and other lightly armored sections bullet penetrable that would add to the realism.

Re: Crouch in all Seats

Posted: 2010-11-25 02:10
by splatters
Oh yes. This should definately be implemenented. I wonder if it's possible and how much work it would require.

Re: Crouch in all Seats

Posted: 2010-11-25 14:00
by Arnoldio
This would be nice yeah. Safety at the cost of awarness. On all vehicles with open tops or windows, so armour doesnt count obviously.

Re: Crouch in all Seats

Posted: 2010-11-25 14:05
by Swado95
I really like this idea nothing is more anying then going by a group of INS shooting at you and you can do is turn the car pray that they are bad shots. Though it would make it very scary when a bomb car is comeing at you with no driver,but that what the 50cal is for.

Re: Crouch in all Seats

Posted: 2010-11-27 02:58
by Shovel
I like all of the ideas, and this could add a huge element to gameplay.

Re: Crouch in all Seats

Posted: 2010-11-27 22:22
by goguapsy
This:
Redamare wrote:possibly just leaning foward a bit still exposed slightly from the window so realisticaly you can still get hurt but i think it may come in handy
and this:
Bringerof_D wrote:mini map should also disappear when you hide so people cant drive by that while crouched.
+just lock steering control - you can only go straight when "ducked" inside the car as a driver...


TheBobJeff wrote:That would be good and would stop people from abusing, what about a time limit for crouching, sort of like sprinting, so you could crouch for some time, then would have to wait to croucha again. May be unrealistic, but would prevent people from crouching for a whole ride.
I don't think that would be necessary. It is hella boring not knowing where you going... that's why I hate being in the 4th or 5th seat of the HMMWV ;)

Re: Crouch in all Seats

Posted: 2010-11-29 00:10
by Shovel
goguapsy wrote: +just lock steering control - you can only go straight when "ducked" inside the car as a driver...
This is an even better solution. This would surely prevent people from ducking for long periods of time - and its a more realistic one that mine.

ANyway This may be possible, I am poking around the internet for information on modifying gunner's ducking. This may be possible for all seats.

Re: Crouch in all Seats

Posted: 2010-11-29 15:42
by goguapsy
TheBobJeff wrote:ANyway This may be possible, I am poking around the internet for information on modifying gunner's ducking. This may be possible for all seats.
Worst case scenario you could give everyone an invisible weapon and invisible bullets and invisible sound (?) and no extra mags (so it doesn't show a mag count when sitting in a normal seat). I think. Not a modder here at all ;)

Re: Crouch in all Seats

Posted: 2010-11-29 16:16
by Shovel
goguapsy wrote:Worst case scenario you could give everyone an invisible weapon and invisible bullets and invisible sound (?) and no extra mags (so it doesn't show a mag count when sitting in a normal seat). I think. Not a modder here at all ;)
Possibly, because I think that ducking would only apply to seats with weapons.

Re: Crouch in all Seats

Posted: 2010-11-29 18:43
by goguapsy
TheBobJeff wrote:Possibly, because I think that ducking would only apply to seats with weapons.
Well buddy, any non-modding and non-texturing and non-technical issues you might have, PM me, I'll help you out gladly ;)


EDIT: Is it possible to alter a soldier's hitbox and 3p view when moving the head in a vehicle? (ie. Instead of crouching, you look down and you are in cover?)

Re: Crouch in all Seats

Posted: 2010-11-30 04:51
by Albatross
Collectively you have all come up with a good idea .. Hope it is possible ?

Re: Crouch in all Seats

Posted: 2010-11-30 07:38
by Haji with a Handgun
This suggestion made my day.