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Not suggestion, I hate jets. Just wanted to show video if showing it is posible to make. As video desc. says it would have been in 0.8 but I guess there was really no maps for it.

Just want some discus, this propably wont be in pr ever.


YouTube - Project Reality - Flying the [extreme-beta] Harrier.

And about jets, heres some combined arms:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbNm3HLt ... re=related

It's still in PR, at least I believe so, but not completed, and therefore on no maps. And it's not really suited as the brits are/have stopped using it, and the US haven't got a carrier to launch it from.

HeXeY wrote:It's still in PR, at least I believe so, but not completed, and therefore on no maps. And it's not really suited as the brits are/have stopped using it, and the US haven't got a carrier to launch it from.

First of all I believe its not complete because there are no maps that fit it.

secondly, the brits are going to stop using them but haven't, theres also nothing stopping anyone from having a map that takes place in the not so distant past, sort of like how al basrah still has brits in it even though the brits have left the place together with the Americans that took over from the brits.

thirdly, the harrier is not launched from a nimitz class carrier, it defeats the point of having a STOVL aircraft.

It is lauched from WASP class (and British counterpart) amphibious assault ships, like the USS Essex that is in PR.

The Americans however use the harrier AV-8B and not the British GR-9 that is in the game files.

Once the map Sangin is furfilled and in game, the word jets in PR will be redifined by this glorious asset they call Harrier.

Hopefully...

Elektro wrote:Once the map Sangin is furfilled and in game, the word jets in PR will be redifined by this glorious asset they call Harrier.

Hopefully...

Sangin is going to be the next muttrah city. Forever played on servers, forever loved <3

If it ever gets finished

Cp wrote:First of all I believe its not complete because there are no maps that fit it.

secondly, the brits are going to stop using them but haven't, theres also nothing stopping anyone from having a map that takes place in the not so distant past, sort of like how al basrah still has brits in it even though the brits have left the place together with the Americans that took over from the brits.

thirdly, the harrier is not launched from a nimitz class carrier, it defeats the point of having a STOVL aircraft.

It is lauched from WASP class (and British counterpart) amphibious assault ships, like the USS Essex that is in PR.

The Americans however use the harrier AV-8B and not the British GR-9 that is in the game files.

First of all, might be because no maps fit it, but last time I saw it, it wasn't complete, so I'm basing it on that, but you might be right.

Secondly, you do have a point there.

Thirdly, I didn't really know it could be launched from the Essex, which I thaught was more of a helicopter platform thingy irl, but thanks for correcting me

HeXeY wrote:thanks for correcting me

My pleasure, I love being a know-it-all smart *** armchair general.

Dug up (one of) rhinos post on the subject.

[R-DEV]Rhino wrote:Guys your all wrong for why you think it isn't in the mod.

The fact is that it mainly isn't in the mod because there is no real map that can use it other than possibly Qinling but the Tornado is already on there which is a better counterpart for the SU-30mkk the PLA have.

The harrier isn't "buggy" as such, it simply has not be coded with good flight physics yet, mainly because there is no need to as we do not have a map for it yet and because we dont have anyone who can really spare any time on it. Give it the vBF2 JSF engine code etc and it flys pretty much perfectly, just very slow and arcadey like, like all vBF2 aircraft physics...

Once we have a large enough map for it where it can be used on well and realistically which the first one coming to hand will most likley be Sangin as stated above, then we will code it up and have it ingame for you guys to play with.

The Harrier was only on the older versions of Kashan training because it was put on there by mistake and shouldn't have never been on there in the first place.

Happy?

And just because its a nice video:



Imagine doing that on the deck of the Essex in PR with 31 blue guys running around like headless chickens. I foresee TK galore.

Was that Harrier launched by steam catapult or can it actually take off with that short runway distance?

dtacs wrote:Was that Harrier launched by steam catapult or can it actually take off with that short runway distance?

The latter, as the whole point of V/STOL and STOVL aircraft is the ability to operate from extremely short runways. The Harrier (and all other VTOL aircraft) can also take-off vertically, however that would require a minimal load and in the Harrier's case headwind.

Tarranauha200 wrote:Just wanted to show video if showing it is posible to make.

Really? STOVL is possible in BF2. Wow man that's like amazing!!! Its not like vBF2 had any STOVL aircraft of its own nor any other BF2 mod has had STOVL aircraft in in it....

BTW thanks CP for digging up that post, saved me having to do it
For thous of you who missed it, here's the link:
https://www.realitymod.com/forum/f10-pr ... ost1254585

[quote=""'[R-DEV"]Rhino;1254585']Guys your all wrong for why you think it isn't in the mod.

The fact is that it mainly isn't in the mod because there is no real map that can use it other than possibly Qinling but the Tornado is already on there which is a better counterpart for the SU-30mkk the PLA have.

The harrier isn't "buggy" as such, it simply has not be coded with good flight physics yet, mainly because there is no need to as we do not have a map for it yet and because we dont have anyone who can really spare any time on it. Give it the vBF2 JSF engine code etc and it flys pretty much perfectly, just very slow and arcadey like, like all vBF2 aircraft physics...

Once we have a large enough map for it where it can be used on well and realistically which the first one coming to hand will most likley be Sangin as stated above, then we will code it up and have it ingame for you guys to play with.

The Harrier was only on the older versions of Kashan training because it was put on there by mistake and shouldn't have never been on there in the first place.

Happy?[/quote]

As stated there, and in many other areas of the forum, the only real reason why we dont use the harrier currently is because we dont have any maps that currently have any use for it.


Now as for the Point of the British Harriers have now been retired, yet that is a little crappy and something we couldn't have foreseen but hopefully we will still see the Harrier GR9 (the brit version) on Sangin and the Harrier AV-8B (the USMC version) can still be used on maps based in the future, once we get one big enough for it.


[quote="dtacs""]Was that Harrier launched by steam catapult or can it actually take off with that short runway distance?[/quote]

That's a standard Short Take Off from the WASP class LHD, with no catapults or anything...

Saarna wrote:The latter, as the whole point of V/STOL and STOVL aircraft is the ability to operate from extremely short runways. The Harrier (and all other VTOL aircraft) can also take-off vertically, however that would require a minimal load and in the Harrier's case headwind.

The harrier is not a true VTOL aircraft, its really only a STOVL aircraft. Ye I'm sure many of you have seen at air shows a harrier taking off vertically, hovering around for a bit and then landing, but truth be told its carrying a tiny amount of fuel and no weapons in order to archive that vertical take off. In any combat configuration, vertical take off is not an option. It can't even vertically take off with a full tank of fuel and no weapons, its simply too heavy hence why pilots have to dump fuel (and some times even weapons) before coming in for landing.


Anyway this topic is totally pointless, we know what BF2 is capable of, epically in terms of what is in vBF2 itself. Locked.