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Spawning without kit
Posted: 2010-11-27 14:33
by Lugi
I've searched the forum all and over and haven't found this idea so here it is.
What do you think about spawning without kits so soldiers are defenceless for a while until they pick up a kit from nearby crate or apc (for insurgent and talibans it will be weapon cache). Will it be good for PR?
Re: Spawning without kit
Posted: 2010-11-27 14:37
by dtacs
It isn't realistic. Soldiers don't go 'outside the wire' unprepared, they go carrying everything they need to sustain themselves in a fight, exactly the same deal in a conventional situation.
AFAIK this is also a re-suggestion under the lines of 'getting kits after spawning in'
Re: Spawning without kit
Posted: 2010-11-27 14:56
by Lugi
dtacs wrote:It isn't realistic. Soldiers don't go 'outside the wire' unprepared, they go carrying everything they need to sustain themselves in a fight, exactly the same deal in a conventional situation.
But they also do not magically appear in the middle of the battlefield.
dtacs wrote:AFAIK this is also a re-suggestion under the lines of 'getting kits after spawning in'
This time I used google and found only this
https://www.realitymod.com/forum/f18-pr-bf2-suggestions/27627-get-ammo-after-respawn.html
Re: Spawning without kit
Posted: 2010-11-27 14:58
by Hitperson
google??
the forum has a perfectly good search system.
Re: Spawning without kit
Posted: 2010-11-27 15:05
by Lugi
OFFTOPIC
Hitperson wrote:google??
the forum has a perfectly good search system.
So why I can't search only for threads containing all the keywords?
Re: Spawning without kit
Posted: 2010-11-27 15:12
by Serbiak
Not meaning to be offensive.
But I remember a topic just about this. Unluckly the search function once again does not do its job so I can fully understand you found nothing.
Re: Spawning without kit
Posted: 2010-11-27 15:48
by Smiddey723
what happens if you have a 6 man squad respawn after dying on a FOB where the crates are either gone from too many people getting ammo or the fob is on top of them?
you get 6 men running around trying to salvage kits only to fight the enemy with their fists?
realistic? no.
Re: Spawning without kit
Posted: 2010-11-27 15:51
by amazing_retard
Smiddey723 wrote:what happens if you have a 6 man squad respawn after dying on a FOB where the crates are either gone from too many people getting ammo or the fob is on top of them?
you get 6 men running around trying to salvage kits only to fight the enemy with their fists?
realistic? no.
Sounds hilarious

Re: Spawning without kit
Posted: 2010-11-27 16:01
by Lugi
So then you've gotta make sure that the fob at which you're going to spawn is currently supplied (or when its not you gotta ask for supplies).
Re: Spawning without kit
Posted: 2010-11-27 16:02
by Smiddey723
amazing_retard wrote:Sounds hilarious
yea for the people shooting at them
all they could do it surrender and start bowing down to them
Re: Spawning without kit
Posted: 2010-11-27 16:11
by Smegburt_funkledink
Lugi wrote:So then you've gotta make sure that the fob at which you're going to spawn is currently supplied (or when its not you gotta ask for supplies).

Good luck with that.
Re: Spawning without kit
Posted: 2010-11-27 16:18
by Smiddey723
Lugi wrote:So then you've gotta make sure that the fob at which you're going to spawn is currently supplied (or when its not you gotta ask for supplies).
are you being serious?
not to mention the fact that the officer does not have a radio to call in supplies, not many people run logi truck runs anymore because quite frankly its boring.
say for example your on a map like iron eagle as IDF and your black hawk is down and you spawn at an isolated FOB in middle of nowhere, how are you supposed to get supplies, i can almost guarantee people will be arsed hauling a logi truck up there just so u can request a damn kit

Re: Spawning without kit
Posted: 2010-11-27 17:09
by Lugi
Smiddey723 wrote:say for example your on a map like iron eagle as IDF and your black hawk is down and you spawn at an isolated FOB in middle of nowhere, how are you supposed to get supplies, i can almost guarantee people will be arsed hauling a logi truck up there just so u can request a damn kit
So don't spawn in the middle of nowhere, but choose the one closer to the combat zone where you have a friendly crate or apc.
I think it's not cool that soldiers can spawn on the firebases in the middle of nowhere and immediately conjure up some firepower without any supplies nearby.
Re: Spawning without kit
Posted: 2010-11-27 17:54
by SleepyHe4d
Haha, well the reason you guys couldn't find the suggestion with searching is because I made a post with multiple suggestions when I first joined. Here it is:
Limited kits
My proposal here is that ALL kits should be limited and requestable and based on a ratio of how many players are on the server. Not only that but the ONLY kit that EVERY faction/army would be able to spawn with would be an unequipped soldier/person with only 1 or 2 field dressing packs and they can't use or ride in vehicles. This would solve the problems of somebody just magically spawning behind you and killing you and also being able to just magically learn a completely different and new set of skills right after you finished healing or repairing something.
Some kits would work differently though and not be based on how many people are on the server but how many vehicles of that type there are on each team. (Example: There would only be six pilot kits if there was 4 jets and 2 helicopters on the team)
https://www.realitymod.com/forum/f18-pr-bf2-suggestions/35479-limited-kits-spawn-points-other-suggestions.html
I'm not gonna lie, I still think it's a great idea.
The thread only got 13 posts though, I guess people didn't like me making a multiple suggestion post right when I joined, and it was probably tl;dr.
Re: Spawning without kit
Posted: 2010-11-27 19:45
by SGT.MARCO
Serbiak wrote:Not meaning to be offensive.
But I remember a topic just about this. Unluckly the search function once again does not do its job so I can fully understand you found nothing.
I agree, half the time I look up stuff I come up with nothing but then someone just pulls it out of their butts and recites it like its the Bible
Re: Spawning without kit
Posted: 2010-11-28 16:25
by supahpingi
we need a manual on searching i guess...
Be sure to use keywords when searching,its better
Re: Spawning without kit
Posted: 2010-11-28 16:31
by gazzthompson
This is a terrible idea, no offense intended.
It would be horrible for gameplay and is very unrealistic. No soldiers dont just "spawn in the middle of nowhere" but them doing so is sure as hell alot more realistic than soldiers running around an active combat zone looking for weapons.
Re: Spawning without kit
Posted: 2010-11-28 17:18
by Jigsaw
As others have mentioned, this is a re-suggestion so i'm locking this thread for that reason.