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Make it so you have to be in a squade to use a kit.

Posted: 2010-12-06 02:50
by Swado95
Its really anyoing lately with not being to have a serious game anymore. Seems like every time I play and I create a squad (such as Kiowa) Some guy run in and im like "do you want to spot or take turns flying" He says nothing grabs a sniper kit and goes lone wolfing even though he could spot for me at least. I think to have special kits (everything except rifleman) you have to be in a squad to use and if you leave you have 1 min to get into a new one. Also this would keep people from making dum sniper squads or 1 Squad per specific asset. I know some of you may be like then you cant use assets right blablabla (well you can combine the squads as in (Armor..,CAS, INF, Scout, ect) and if you think about it its good to have 1 spotter for all the CAS, and have all the inf grouped together. BTW plzpzlzplzplz bring back the ability to pick up others kits.

Re: Make it so you have to be in a squade to use a kit.

Posted: 2010-12-06 04:00
by dtacs
What is stopping him from just creating a new squad? In theory, its a good idea considering it increases teamwork by forcing squadwork, but they can just go and create another locked 1-man.

Re: Make it so you have to be in a squade to use a kit.

Posted: 2010-12-06 04:23
by SGT.MARCO
I tink it will be better if requesting kits require that a message shows up on squad leads screen saying "so an so is allocating a kit, yes or no. so that people wont ever take useless kits anymore. It is annoying that everyone wants to be a sniper.

If they have to be in a squad they will waste one of the 9 squad slots on a "sniper team" so i think my idea would be better.

Re: Make it so you have to be in a squade to use a kit.

Posted: 2010-12-06 04:29
by ankyle62
I want to rage when someone joins my squad, grabs a sniper kit, and leaves. I wish there was a way to prevent that.

Re: Make it so you have to be in a squade to use a kit.

Posted: 2010-12-06 04:41
by mat552
ankyle62 wrote:I want to rage when someone joins my squad, grabs a sniper kit, and leaves. I wish there was a way to prevent that.
!r XxX_SNIPRE133T_XxX Join squad, get sniper, leave squad
!reporting or !report works on some servers. And occasionally !beerme

Unless your admins don't care, in which case nothing the devs do is going to ease your frustration.

Re: Make it so you have to be in a squade to use a kit.

Posted: 2010-12-06 06:04
by Dev1200
Everyone on the forums enjoys good sentence structure, and proper use of spacing and paragraphs. Giant walls of text = ;_; Also, please think out what you want to suggest, rather then write words of what you want and then submit it for the world to see.



Your suggestion states that you have to be in a squad to use a kit. Now, what dtacs wrote is exactly what I was going to write:
dtacs wrote:What is stopping him from just creating a new squad? In theory, its a good idea considering it increases teamwork by forcing squadwork, but they can just go and create another locked 1-man.

This subject has been suggested to death. If people don't say anything in my squads for half a minute or so, I kick them from the squad. The devs have already implemented a system to avoid people just joining a random squad, stealing a kit, then leaving. They have to wait approximately 2 minutes before they can request a kit after joining the squad. If you kick them beforehand, they cannot get the kit. Profit.


And for your sneaky slide-in suggestion of "BTW plzpzlzplzplz bring back the ability to pick up others kits", it has been suggested as well, and denied. In real life, you wouldn't go about picking through your enemy's equipment, walking around with an AK because you'd like it better than what your military has equipped you with, or what have you.


It is also shunned upon to use enemy weapons, as you never know what condition it may be in, if it is booby-trapped, and will confuse friendlies. You can take any kit in dire situations, where you need to defend yourself, and you can also take enemy rifleman, rifleman specialist, rifleman AP, and rifleman AT kits as well. They removed the ability to use other kits because, if you think about it, would your average farm-raised iraqi know how to use modern anti-tank equipment? ;\ I think not.


TL;DR: Already in game. Kick them before their 2ish minute grace period is up to get kits. For last suggestion, it's been suggested, and is unrealistic to use enemy equipment.

Re: Make it so you have to be in a squade to use a kit.

Posted: 2010-12-07 02:13
by Swado95
Well that does make sense for the equipment (yet I do think they could figure out a sniper rifle OR Glancher)

But I think this is a nice idea, don't know if it possible or not.
I tink it will be better if requesting kits require that a message shows up on squad leads screen saying "so an so is allocating a kit, yes or no. so that people wont ever take useless kits anymore. It is annoying that everyone wants to be a sniper.


I also think it would be cool if when ONLY requesting certain kits for a squad leader that they would not be able to get it (As in a squad leader would not be going in with a HAT,sniper,Lat,CE, and others) yet allow them to pick up dropped friendly kits to allow them to defended themselves (of course there would be exceptions to the no request rule)

PS. sorry about paragraph was a little bit in a rush.

Re: Make it so you have to be in a squade to use a kit.

Posted: 2010-12-07 02:53
by Psyko
I agree with the OP. id like to see more strictness against people who whore kits and troll squads.

Re: Make it so you have to be in a squade to use a kit.

Posted: 2010-12-07 06:47
by Murphy
I saw a lone sniper go down across the field from my squad, we had one guy crash and then he joined our squad. Knowing he wouldn't make the dash across he sat by the crate, I realized what he was up to and took my chance to request the sniper kit myself. I promptly ran into a random room and dropped it, returning to pick my rifleman kit up I noticed he was still there. He remained there for quite some time, as I cycled the kit once to ensure his misery.


Not really a solution, but a good way to piss them off.

Re: Make it so you have to be in a squade to use a kit.

Posted: 2010-12-07 11:16
by BenHamish
SGT.MARCO wrote:I tink it will be better if requesting kits require that a message shows up on squad leads screen saying "so an so is allocating a kit, yes or no. so that people wont ever take useless kits anymore. It is annoying that everyone wants to be a sniper.

If they have to be in a squad they will waste one of the 9 squad slots on a "sniper team" so i think my idea would be better.
If that was possible it would be brilliant, because at last a Squad Leader would actually have some powers other than persuasion or having to cajole unco-operative members.

Re: Make it so you have to be in a squade to use a kit.

Posted: 2010-12-07 12:37
by doop-de-doo
Under normal circumstances, you would report them to the server admins.

Re: Make it so you have to be in a squade to use a kit.

Posted: 2010-12-07 13:17
by Smiddey723
What have you guys got against people that join take a sniper and leave, it's not as if they are directly affecting you

EDIT: I myself do not do this, just wondering what everyone has against it as when someone joins my squad they normally ask me if they can request it and then leave and im perfectly ok with that

curiosity that is all

Re: Make it so you have to be in a squade to use a kit.

Posted: 2010-12-07 15:12
by dtacs
What have you guys got against people that join take a sniper and leave, it's not as if they are directly affecting you
I've had it happen on multiple, MULTIPLE occasions. People joining the squad at the start of the round, I assign them a kit, and then on spawn-in they grab a sniper and leave.

Its frustrating as it obviously shows that you can't trust them, plus your down one squad member and on servers like TG when there isn't a large unassigned player pool, its often a challenge to poach players from other squads.

Re: Make it so you have to be in a squade to use a kit.

Posted: 2010-12-07 15:17
by ma21212
dtacs wrote:I've had it happen on multiple, MULTIPLE occasions. People joining the squad at the start of the round, I assign them a kit, and then on spawn-in they grab a sniper and leave.

Its frustrating as it obviously shows that you can't trust them, plus your down one squad member and on servers like TG when there isn't a large unassigned player pool, its often a challenge to poach players from other squads.
Why do you care? hes not lone wolfing in your squad? honestly some of you guys have a problem... if someone wants to be a sniper just let him.

edit:
Murphy wrote:I saw a lone sniper go down across the field from my squad, we had one guy crash and then he joined our squad. Knowing he wouldn't make the dash across he sat by the crate, I realized what he was up to and took my chance to request the sniper kit myself. I promptly ran into a random room and dropped it, returning to pick my rifleman kit up I noticed he was still there. He remained there for quite some time, as I cycled the kit once to ensure his misery.


Not really a solution, but a good way to piss them off.
congrats, you cost CAS a spotter, enjoy the BTRs.

Re: Make it so you have to be in a squade to use a kit.

Posted: 2010-12-07 16:56
by goguapsy
ma21212 wrote:Why do you care? hes not lone wolfing in your squad? honestly some of you guys have a problem... if someone wants to be a sniper just let him.
"Ok guys, I'm gonna need a medic, an AR and a Rifleman Specialist."
"I go AR"
"I go Rifle Specialist"
"..."
"1337sn1per0z, could you be the medic?"
"Yeah, sur3."

Spawns in, everyone gets the kit... no medic. On a 4-men squad. Just saying.

I really really don't mind - in fact I help - whoever joins my squad and says "hey, I want to get the sniper kit, do you mind?" I just say "sure, but make sure you put it to good use/report contacts" and most importantly I suggest he makes his own squad.

But join and get the snip3r kit... I know I can't trust you if the shit hits the fan. Go annoy someone else (kick). On rare occasions I say, hey, if you wanna be on this squad get a rifleman kit.


congrats, you cost CAS a spotter, enjoy the BTRs.
lol you didn't quite read the thread.

Re: Make it so you have to be in a squade to use a kit.

Posted: 2010-12-07 17:18
by ma21212
goguapsy wrote:"Ok guys, I'm gonna need a medic, an AR and a Rifleman Specialist."
"I go AR"
"I go Rifle Specialist"
"..."
"1337sn1per0z, could you be the medic?"
"Yeah, sur3."

Spawns in, everyone gets the kit... no medic. On a 4-men squad. Just saying.

I really really don't mind - in fact I help - whoever joins my squad and says "hey, I want to get the sniper kit, do you mind?" I just say "sure, but make sure you put it to good use/report contacts" and most importantly I suggest he makes his own squad.

But join and get the snip3r kit... I know I can't trust you if the shit hits the fan. Go annoy someone else (kick). On rare occasions I say, hey, if you wanna be on this squad get a rifleman kit.





lol you didn't quite read the thread.
As much as I dont approve of what they do I just dont care, all of them leave the squad when they get the kit, the sniper didnt steal anything from your squad, hes not waisting a slot or anything. and read what some of these ppl are saying, some go out of their way and waist kits, let alone a player dont you think thats a little much?