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Militia - Who are they?

Posted: 2010-12-30 01:23
by Shrimpcel
Who are they? Countries...? Organisations...?

re: Militia - Who are they?

Posted: 2010-12-30 01:27
by Smiddey723
based off the chechneyan rebels, they used to be called that in a previous release (0.85) but were changed to Milita

Second Chechen War - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chechnya

re: Militia - Who are they?

Posted: 2010-12-30 01:29
by Shrimpcel
Smiddey723 wrote:based off the chechneyan rebels

Second Chechen War - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Well I thought as much... Basically means that they fight on maps located in Russia. You sure there's no one else involved? XD I heard some stuff about weapon dealers or I don't know what??

re: Militia - Who are they?

Posted: 2010-12-30 01:31
by hobbnob
First off, welcome to the forums.
Second, try to be a bit more specific in your title, it's very vague.

Third thing, the militia are generic, as the PR devs cant create every single militant faction in the worlds many conflicts.

re: Militia - Who are they?

Posted: 2010-12-30 01:31
by Shrimpcel
EDIT: Sorry I didn't read your full post... Kinda stupid of me considering it's short. Mmmmkay so they're definitely based on them, thanks a lot =D

re: Militia - Who are they?

Posted: 2010-12-30 01:32
by Shrimpcel
hobbnob wrote:First off, welcome to the forums.
Second, try to be a bit more specific in your title, it's very vague.

Third thing, the militia are generic, as the PR devs cant create every single militant faction in the worlds many conflicts.
Ok, thanks for the welcome =D So basically generic faction... Like say the "Rebels" from the original BF2, but both are strongly based on the Chechen rebels.

Re: Militia - Who are they?

Posted: 2010-12-30 02:37
by Farks
Actully, they were called "the militia" from the start but became the chechens for a while. They reverted them back into the militia in order to make them more "general" and able to fight other factions than the russians.

Re: Militia - Who are they?

Posted: 2010-12-30 03:23
by Punkbuster
I read somewhere that they are Arms dealers...
However, In previous versions or PR they used to be Chechen Rebels and fought against the Russians.
Now since the Russian have enough maps the devs decided to convert the Chechen Rebels to a new faction called Militia which can suite in any type of Battle, Against any Bluefor faction.

Cheers,
Punkbuster

Re: Militia - Who are they?

Posted: 2010-12-30 03:49
by ShockUnitBlack
I believe their equipment remains largely based on that of your average Chechen rebel, with the exceptions of the FN FAL, Lee-Enfield SMLE 4, and M60. Worth adding to the discussion by any means.

Re: Militia - Who are they?

Posted: 2010-12-30 03:57
by charliegrs
In my mind they will always be Chechens. Originally they were a generic "militia", which I always assumed meant Chechens but left open ended enough to be someone else. Then they actually became the Chechens for a short while, now they are back to being milita. It only bothers the "realistic scenario" part of my brain to play a Militia vs British map. Like the British would be able to step foot in Chechnya without the Russians getting involved. But then again, they arent really Chechens. They could maybe be some kind of East European militia, like the Kosovo Liberation Army was.

Re: Militia - Who are they?

Posted: 2010-12-30 08:45
by PLODDITHANLEY
With AK's and Toyota Hilux's they could be just about anyone from Somalia to Sarajevo.


Yugoslav war photos

Re: Militia - Who are they?

Posted: 2010-12-30 18:25
by charliegrs
PLODDITHANLEY wrote:With AK's and Toyota Hilux's they could be just about anyone from Somalia to Sarajevo.


Yugoslav war photos
But with their white skin, woodland camo and russian speaking that pretty much limits them to Chechen/Eastern European theatres.

Re: Militia - Who are they?

Posted: 2010-12-30 18:40
by Herbiie
charliegrs wrote:In my mind they will always be Chechens. Originally they were a generic "militia", which I always assumed meant Chechens but left open ended enough to be someone else. Then they actually became the Chechens for a short while, now they are back to being milita. It only bothers the "realistic scenario" part of my brain to play a Militia vs British map. Like the British would be able to step foot in Chechnya without the Russians getting involved. But then again, they arent really Chechens. They could maybe be some kind of East European militia, like the Kosovo Liberation Army was.
Fools Road = Kosovo afaik

Re: Militia - Who are they?

Posted: 2010-12-30 20:32
by HMARS
I guess "militia" is just generic for post-soviet paramilitaries here in the same way that "EU forces" in vanilla BF2 refer to a generic western european force. If every scenario was arranged in a truly "realistic" way, then we'd have basically nothing but INS or historical maps most of the time.

Re: Militia - Who are they?

Posted: 2010-12-30 20:33
by Dev1200
They changed it to Militia so that they can have more leeway with who they fight.

If it was chechens, they'd have to be more specific, which the dev team doesn't like :P

Re: Militia - Who are they?

Posted: 2010-12-30 21:20
by TheOldBreed
a while ago i heard the fella that did them was actually inspired by the 'militia' type people in the woods on Children of Men, rather than the Chechens or Serbs.

Re: Militia - Who are they?

Posted: 2010-12-30 21:33
by ZephyrDark
I've heard from a few DEVs in-game and on the forums (cannot cite posts, sorry :/), that they are in fact a generic militia of arms dealers. If I remember correctly, they are of Eastern European origin.

The GB v MIL maps, to me, are supposed to be the British trying to eliminate these arms dealers after some sort of event or due to a NATO involvement. Or something of those likes.

I've read a few people in other places saying that they want the Militia to become the Chechens again to give them a name, but, that would limit the faction significantly. It would restrict the weaponry, opponents, assets, and maps they could use. On that note, I personally would love to see a little less soviet derived weaponry, some air assets, and some other things; however, that is for a different thread ;)

Re: Militia - Who are they?

Posted: 2010-12-30 21:51
by motherdear
ZephyrDark wrote:I've heard from a few DEVs in-game and on the forums (cannot cite posts, sorry :/), that they are in fact a generic militia of arms dealers. If I remember correctly, they are of Eastern European origin.

The GB v MIL maps, to me, are supposed to be the British trying to eliminate these arms dealers after some sort of event or due to a NATO involvement. Or something of those likes.
Correct, the original text in 0.6 on mestia stated this. These texts were removed later though since it stopped creativity and the situations that could be simulated.

Re: Militia - Who are they?

Posted: 2010-12-30 22:16
by Bob_Marley
They're evil replicons from beyond the moon!

Don't you people pay attention to anything the mod team says?

Re: Militia - Who are they?

Posted: 2011-01-24 05:38
by moj
Not a serious idea or anything, but I like to imagine they're Bulgarians in a future, where for what ever reason/s the regular army has disbanded and the country has become occupied by foreign armies.

Only because the Bulgarian language is very close to Russian (far more so than Chechen, for example) and almost all of the Militia arsenal, has at one time or other been used by the Bulgarian military. There's a few exceptions, such as the PPSh-41, FAL and M60, but I just imagine the PPsh snuck in from Russia or Ukraine and the M60s and FALs came from neighbours Greece, who used them not too long ago.

Like I said; not a serious idea :)