Ramjali wrote:To simulate the CQB moments in the mod...so you can simulate the real world advantage of pistols or non/foldable butstock weapon because in game, there is no advantage of using pistols and the MEC's MP5A3, or the german MP7. So to sum up everything, make it easier to use shortned weapons indoor and decrease the time needed to aim down the iron sights.
In reality, the advantages come with equal disadvantages. While smaller weapons are easier to handle in confined spaces, they lose a substantial amount of range capabilityand accuracy. You are also looking at a "pistol caliber" instead of a "rifle caliber", most CQB-based weapons will have decreased penetration and stopping power
in general. One last disadvantage over using a subgun or pistol in CQB is that you lose the ability to perform powerful melee strikes that are possible with a rifle/carbine.
As for the in-game advantage, outside of possible differences in deviation settle times, the only other gameplay difference I can imagine making a difference are collision detection. Smaller weapons would mean you can move around easier in confined spaces (just like in real life), whereas the larger weapons will have you bumping into walls more often. But I don't think that feature has been done yet.
Also, increase the damage caused by the MP7 because it uses armour piercing rounds. (I would have also suggested to increase MP5 power but MP5 can't penetrate body armour.) *Once in game, shot enemy 3-4 times or more with mp7, but the enemy didnt die and shot me. Was peed off becuase I was in a deep striking squad behind enemy lines and was about to take out their main FOB*
The MP7 fires 4.6x30mm ammunition, which is similar to the 5.7x28mm round used in the P90. The 4.6mm DM11 round is considered an AP round, but it has less penetration capabilities than a 5.56mm NATO round. In comparison, the 5.7mm SS190 round is also classified as an AP round, with very similar penetration (slightly higher) values. Neither the 4.6mm or 5.7mm subgun/pistol rounds are capable of penetration beyond NIJ-rated III/IIIA armor, which the military considers the base limit for AP munitions.
In case you are unfamiliar with firearms, a higher penetration value often means less damage to a human target. Against an armored human, the 4.6mm round would likely not penetrate more than 2-4 inches beyond their flak vest or be completely stopped by Level III vests and/or SAPI plates, while nearly every rifle round used in PR will penetrate 6 inches or more and still have sufficient energy to cause massive internal trauma.
And can you also add a hadicapp, so when you shoot an enemy on the leg, they immediately prone to simulate the fact of "not being able to stand".
Just because you are shot in the leg doesn't mean you will immediately drop to the ground. I was shot in the thigh from an M16A2 by a fellow soldier during a training exercise, the round passed clean through the leg missing the femur by about 2.5 inches, and I had to be held back from running over and beating his head into the ground. It sure hurt like a mofo after a minute or so, but not enough that I
couldn't walk or stand (although I sure didn't
want to keep on my feet afterwards). In a combat situation I would have been more than capable of performing my duties and returning fire before moving to cover and applying a dressing.
It all just depends on the round fired and where/how it hits, as well as the physical composition of that person's leg, their own level of pain management, and sheer luck.
HMARS wrote:The MP7 doesn't do much damage because its slugs are tiny. 4.6mm ammunition doesn't have very much stopping power even if it is more penetrative.
It depends on the rounds. Just because the projectile itself is small doesn't mean much. The 4.6mm hollowpoint rounds will do a serious amount of damage to soft targets while still allowing a fair amount of penetration on unarmored or lightly-armored targets. In most cases specialty calibers such as the 4.6mm and 5.7mm will do substantially more tissue damage against a human than traditional subgun/pistol rounds, and in some cases almost comparable to smaller rifle calibers.
While I'm not personally a fan of the MP7, the P90 on the other hand is in my opinion the most effective CQB platform in the world. If funding allowed it, I'm sure the majority of LE/gov tactical teams would be using them for the same reason.