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Re: American/Canadian soil themed maps

Posted: 2011-01-24 14:39
by Rudd
This kind of setting would require alot of new statics, which is the technical objection. And lots of people consider such a theatre to be just too unrealistic.

Re: American/Canadian soil themed maps

Posted: 2011-01-24 14:43
by moj
That would be pretty cool. Even cooler, although this is never going to happen in PR, would be a US or Canadian militia, fighting against a Russian or Chinese occupying army.

Re: American/Canadian soil themed maps

Posted: 2011-01-24 14:47
by moj
[R-DEV]Rudd wrote:This kind of setting would require alot of new statics, which is the technical objection. And lots of people consider such a theatre to be just too unrealistic.
A world where China is growing stronger by the day and a debt-ridden USA weaker, throw in a bit of civil unrest, even a major civil war perhaps in the US and the scene is set for China to reclaim what they're owed, by taking some prime real estate by force ;)

I'm aware this is very unrealistic to say the least, but no more unrealistic than the MEC existing, for one example.

Re: American/Canadian soil themed maps

Posted: 2011-01-24 14:50
by karambaitos
moj wrote:A world where China is growing stronger by the day and a debt-ridden USA weaker, throw in a bit of civil unrest, even a major civil war perhaps in the US and the scene is set for China to reclaim what they're owed, by taking some prime real estate by force ;)

I'm aware this is very unrealistic to say the least, but no more unrealistic than the MEC existing, for one example.
china and russia going to war or Canada successfully invading Russia.
Anyway arent there already many statics from one of the BF2 expansion packs where mec invades the US (at least rural statics), also i believe someone was making a map where russia attacks somewhere in alaska

Re: American/Canadian soil themed maps

Posted: 2011-01-24 14:56
by KingLorre
karambaitos wrote:china and russia going to war or Canada successfully invading Russia.
Anyway arent there already many statics from one of the BF2 expansion packs where mec invades the US (at least rural statics), also i believe someone was making a map where russia attacks somewhere in alaska
If someone would moddel a Pentagon we could totaly have a DC map :P

Re: American/Canadian soil themed maps

Posted: 2011-01-24 14:59
by Damian(>>>PL
I think its greate idee, it could add some fresh spirit. Sometching like muttrah witch PLA attacking USA.
[R-DEV]Rudd wrote:This kind of setting would require alot of new statics, which is the technical objection. And lots of people consider such a theatre to be just too unrealistic.
Unrealistc, so UK Vs PLA on Quinling is realistick, we all know US propagand every empire in the histry of world had sometching like that "we are the best, dont try to fight witch us(becouse the best weapon is the weapon that even dont have to be used)", untill someone defeated them.


In my opinnion PLA attacking USA is much more realistick then UK attacking PLA, but that is only a game.

Re: American/Canadian soil themed maps

Posted: 2011-01-24 15:00
by moj
KingLorre wrote:If someone would moddel a Pentagon we could totaly have a DC map :P
Oooh triple-pronged assault on North America; Russia and China assault the west coast and MEC takes the east! Imagine USMC vs MEC in NYC, that'd be intense, if only the game engine could handle such a map.

Re: American/Canadian soil themed maps

Posted: 2011-01-24 15:04
by Damian(>>>PL
moj wrote:Oooh triple-pronged assault on North America; Russia and China assault the west coast and MEC takes the east! Imagine USMC vs MEC in NYC, that'd be intense, if only the game engine could handle such a map.
Fight in City like NY for BF2 imposible, but what about Arma2 engine ??

Re: American/Canadian soil themed maps

Posted: 2011-01-24 15:05
by KingLorre
Damian(>>>PL wrote:Fight in City like NY for BF2 imposible, but what about Arma2 engine ??
The amount of statics required for NYC would be insane and near imposible to recreate using either ARMA2 or BF2 engines.

Thats why i brought up the pentagon, for the amount of open space around it. :mrgreen:

Re: American/Canadian soil themed maps

Posted: 2011-01-24 15:21
by Bulletbait
Mark me down as a guy that would love an INS match where the insurgents are American/Canadian militia units. I love ridiculous stuff like that. Makes games more entertaining.

Re: American/Canadian soil themed maps

Posted: 2011-01-24 15:32
by seph567
anyone know the "space needle"-map from World in Conflict? ;D just copy+paste into bf2 editor :P

Re: American/Canadian soil themed maps

Posted: 2011-01-24 15:36
by WithoutPurpose
KingLorre wrote:The amount of statics required for NYC would be insane and near imposible to recreate using either ARMA2 or BF2 engines.

Thats why i brought up the pentagon, for the amount of open space around it. :mrgreen:

You crazy? What if one of the caches is in one of the skyscrapers? I don't see myself running to the 50th floor to get me an rpg!

But anyway, it would be cool imo, like some close combat in these "ghetto" hoods or some flying above LA would be awesome.

Re: American/Canadian soil themed maps

Posted: 2011-01-24 15:38
by Rudd
Fearosius wrote:Ye, I was thinking about that Rudd, however, would it be possible to use some pre-existing ones from BF2 and the expansion and booster packs?
the problem is that the booster pack statics are usually non-enterable, arent that good and also we do not have the lightmap samples*

*this means that to give the buildings correct lighting, we would need to use 3dsmax to LM it, which can be done but not that many mappers have access to teh program.

imo, this is the primary obstacle to any North American map that isn't 99.99% done using only terrain, generic statics and overgrowth <- which are hard to pull off due to various reasons.

Re: American/Canadian soil themed maps

Posted: 2011-01-24 15:42
by Dunehunter
You want it, you make it ;)

Re: American/Canadian soil themed maps

Posted: 2011-01-24 15:43
by Bulletbait
Are there any "farmhouse" type statics that would fit for a rural American area? An INS map set in the Midwest centered on a small rural town surrounded with farmsteads would be sweet.

Re: American/Canadian soil themed maps

Posted: 2011-01-24 15:46
by Just_A_Thought
karambaitos wrote:china and russia going to war or Canada successfully invading Russia.
Anyway arent there already many statics from one of the BF2 expansion packs where mec invades the US (at least rural statics), also i believe someone was making a map where russia attacks somewhere in alaska
That would be the mini-series World War III.