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I and many others have noticed that over a period of time the community is slowly changing and I don't think there is much chance of stopping it or taking it back to the roots of what PR was really. I've played and still play PR for a few years and one of the things were missing, is the EX-Military or those few people who know what they're talking about.

For example, let me give you two short scenario's:

Scenario 1 (2 yr's ago Al Basrah NWA Server) - Me and a couple of Ex Military Para's set off in a squad of four with a convoy behind us, before we even headed out of the operations base the team organised themselve's and had contribution into what they were going to do to search and destroy the objective. We all seperated off our kit classes so nearlly all of the team had a kit they wanted or asked for.

Scenario 2 (Present Day Albasrah NWA Server) - Me and a few clan members make a Mechanised Infantry squad hoping to be able to communicate with the Armour, that went wrong as they failed to support us as we proceeded towards the city from the south highway. We tried again but as they're was no infantry to support the western flanks and a couple of guys were sniping on the eastern island and NOT collecting intel we failed again and the bombtruck had passed by the island and into a nearby tank and apc.

Both these scenario's did happen and it is not made up for me to rant and rave at, all I want to know is the community's opinion into our present community and maybe a reason for why it is all going well tit's up.

Shots

Shots, you can still get that experience from your first scenario. I manage to find great teamwork in the same sense that you described in your first example every weekend I play. In fact, just a couple of weeks back on the same server, our team did the pretty much exact same thing you're describing.
I don't think the community or the teamwork experience is degrading at all, it's just that with the influx of a lot of new players there are a lot more populated servers with a varying degree of good teamwork around. Some bad, some good.
You gotta actively search for the good games now. Find a community, maybe a clan, or both you like playing with and stick with that as much as you can, is my advice.

PR was indeed a different game a few years back, but I actually prefer how it is now.
One thing I don't like about the most recent versions is the armor/asset and infantry balance, and I think this is detrimental to both teamwork and gameplay in general.
I hope this issue will be at least partially resolved by an increase in player numbers (64p to 128p).

Remember that I'm not saying that you're wrong at all. This is just my experience of it, and how I see things.

There is a few games where there has been some great teamwork, but thats what I mean they're getting fewer and it's not the new players fault in a way its our fault for not giving them the right information before they do they're own thing 'Don't run if you can't walk first'.

Good teamwork is important, but it's not any tradition that ex-militaries are creating a good game. It is for everyone and most play PR for entertainment and fun, which of course is what it's all about. If you can't find a good game on the public servers you can join the tournament

Some armour just don't want to patiently work with inf although many do, just luck of the draw I guess.

Where you both in Mumble SL channel as NWA has quite alot in it most of the time?

1st thing : it's just a videogame.
2nd thing : shit happens.

Yes in scenario 2 we was, scenario 1 was a couple years back, not many used mumble as much we just knew how to communicate through the teams

ElPube wrote:1st thing : it's just a videogame.
2nd thing : shit happens.

It is a videogame and yea shit happens, but shit is happening to often and for a game that is pretty much a military sim I can put money on it that you dont play this like its just a 'videogame'

Shots1721 wrote:Yes in scenario 2 we was, scenario 1 was a couple years back, not many used mumble as much we just knew how to communicate through the teams

Well it really depends on what server you go to these days. TG is always good place to hang out for teamwork games. Than most people mention PRTA, UKWF/NWA in that order.

See if the server has rules about following orders. If they do, go CO and command the team. These days as a CO you'r not stuck in your trailer at main. So you can play with your friends and command the team to do what you want!

Bumpedy

I played on all the these servers and they all have the same issue but in different ways, PRTA is more disciplined but seems to kick people too often, UKWF doesn't fill up alot but when it does the new guys come in and no one helps them out and NWA, the guys that come in their seem to try and ghost, cheat and abuse the new players for no reason (not including any of the members and admins of their clans)

The only people that get kicked on PRTA are the non-mumblers and the rule breakers. Its not like TG where people that dont donate get kicked.

yea its true, all i'm asking for here is idea's and opinion's on our community, i dont wanna talk badly about server's cause its not the servers i'm trying to get at.

Actually it it about the servers: It all depends how you want to play. Want to play super serious and tactical= Join TG! Wanna hve a jolly good times with all sorts of weirdos Join PRTA! Want to have fun in all kind of assets mixe with insurgency join Hardcore.

Ofc there are other servers but them i dont visit frequently enough to make a statement about.

You don't need ex-mils to have a game like this, just some organised players. UKTF clan had a game with other clans the other day and it was about as organised as a game could ever be. You could always go commander and give the game some structure that way. Also when everyone's on mumble it is usually the way you described in the first situation.

Exactly. I understand you don want to trash talk the servers but theres no way of talking about this without including servers. Gameplay varies a lot from server to server and day to day. NEW Era warfare for instance has a first come first serve asset rule. The effect it has on gameplay and organisation is much different than: Squadname asset rules.

What Cyber and Smiles said. It's about server and people who play there (other servers attract other kind of people). It's not that everyone will play the game as you want, you have to find environment that suits your needs.

No to mention I find more organised games now than I used to 2 years ago. And PR is heading in good way with that goal. It's not game when you just need to hide you rally in some weird spot and rush with squad at enemy, now it needs a lot more coordination to win.

BTW I felt quite offended reading about PRTA kicking part in one of your post, we never kick anyone who is not breaking rules and we usually even warn them before (once or twice). Unjustified kicks happen very rarely. But it's not the topic here, sorry for QQ.

Tbh, my best rounds of team coordination were on NwA. Everybody talks good about TG, but every time I play a round there it turns out to be some of the worst in my PR experience. Guess it's just my luck.

It changes so much, I sometimes have a round or two on NWA because its friendly and has generally pretty good teamwork.

Last night I was unlucky with a micless SL who got dropped of in the middle of nowhere by Chinook (Archer) the NWA pilot was 'why there?' to the guy?

We get dropped of he leaves the squad...great - Alt F4 watch a film instead.

I like NWA and it's good - just an example how one plonker on one game out of 50 made it pants for me.

I think one game in 10 is great it all works well you're a well oiled SF killer, 5 out of ten OK a good laugh, maybe one or two a bit boring but the last two can be so bad, a staked team, the enemy who seem to kill me through walls all round, pilots who crash, armour co operator who's forgotton his glasses....

haha exactly! Those numbers seem right to me as well!