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Requesting Squad Leading Tips

Posted: 2011-03-24 05:49
by SilentxDeadly
Hey guys (and girls?),

I've been squad leader in most games I play, primarily only infantry. I have my ups and downs (about 60% top squad at end of game, sometimes 2nd or 3rd).

Basically, is there a set of "Golden Rules" or important tips in terms of infantry tactics? I.E. Don't run in the middle of the street, don't fire at APC's / Tanks if the squad has no anti-tank kits... etc...

Just trying to better myself as a competent SL, and ANY advice is appreciated.

Re: Requesting Squad Leading Tips

Posted: 2011-03-24 07:23
by Skull
prta offers as one of many a squadleader training and its absolutly worth it ;)

regards,
skull

Re: Requesting Squad Leading Tips

Posted: 2011-03-24 08:21
by Wicca
Work with the team, organize more complicated assaults with other squads than just your own. Try getting in TS, or mumble with another friend squadleader that you like. And stick with him ingame. Having more men, delegated between 2 guys in such manner will make the game experience more immersive, and might also increase your ability to meet greet and defeat the enemy.

// Wicca out

Re: Requesting Squad Leading Tips

Posted: 2011-03-25 06:30
by dtacs
If you're not able to do it in the first place and have to ask for help, you shouldn't be doing it.

Re: Requesting Squad Leading Tips

Posted: 2011-03-25 06:41
by Bufl4x
True, most of us were born with the ability to be perfect squadleaders. Except dtacs, who traded his friendliness towards new players for god-like PR skills. It wasn't worth it though.

Here is a tip for you Silent: top squad means nothing, it's ticket ratio what counts. If you made the enemy lose more tickets than you did, you were succesful. So keep that K/D positive and you'll be fine.

Re: Requesting Squad Leading Tips

Posted: 2011-03-25 07:03
by dtacs
Bufl4x wrote:True, most of us were born with the ability to be perfect squadleaders. Except dtacs, who traded his friendliness towards new players for god-like PR skills. It wasn't worth it though.
Good one. I could elaborate, but those who waste 5 other people's time by not being properly prepared shouldn't be doing it. The first time I led an infantry squad on Kyongan Ni, we managed to take the flag single handedly and then push them up the river whilst other squads fucked around in the hills. I did that by seeing what other squad leaders did wrong and what was right, and by developing my own flavour of leadership instead of stealing traits from others.

Go hard or go home.
Here is a tip for you Silent: top squad means nothing, it's ticket ratio what counts. If you made the enemy lose more tickets than you did, you were succesful. So keep that K/D positive and you'll be fine.
The unfortunate truth.

Re: Requesting Squad Leading Tips

Posted: 2011-03-25 07:28
by ShockUnitBlack
Just get confident as a squad member on a good server, then when that server's filled with nub pubbers, step up and lead them. Just make sure you're on SL mumble when you do so.

Re: Requesting Squad Leading Tips

Posted: 2011-03-25 15:52
by goguapsy
Hey, ignore the comments. Everyone needs training (hence why Lieutenants in the Army have a OCS/ROTC/SAs).

I wasn't perfect the first time around. And God knows, I am full of flaws.

When I do manage to succeed, it has something to do with the enemy team being somewhat incompetent. But here are a few tips...

1. Use the kick button on bad SMs. That's what I do, and I suggest you do the same.
2. Communicate with the team. Use mortar and APC support, and coordinate attacks with other squads.
3. Have a plan. Of course you must be able to make up plans on the fly - that's what makes good SLs. But have a goal and a path - get the kits you need, make sure everyone is loaded, and REGROUP...
4. Regroup often. Don't let people strafe too much apart if that's not part of the plan.

Here are just a few tips from a noob. And hey, getting top squad is strangely related to how well you do on the battlefield. Sure FOBs give many points, but I have led man squads who got MANY points and didn't shovel a single thing. It's all about teamwork and getting your objective - defend, attack, take out enemy FOBs...

And 5. Keep a good situational awareness! I don't mean just looking everywhere and knowing what everyone in your squad is doing, but CHECK YOU MAP OFTEN! Find the gap! Fill the missing hole!

Re: Requesting Squad Leading Tips

Posted: 2011-03-25 15:57
by gazzthompson
Play off the other squads. If your team is attacking, defend. If they are heavy on one flank, move to the other etc. KEEP YOUR SQUAD CLOSE (Less than 50m) AT ALL(99%) TIMES!

Re: Requesting Squad Leading Tips

Posted: 2011-03-25 15:59
by Rudd
dtacs wrote:If you're not able to do it in the first place and have to ask for help, you shouldn't be doing it.
learn by doing...as long as he aint bunnyhopping his way accross the map and ignoring his SMs then you shouldn't have much to berate him with.

jesus Dtacs...its a frickin' game - lighten up

Hi SilentxDeadly, theres alot of good advice around here

https://www.realitymod.com/forum/f137-p ... eting.html

Squad Leader Tactics - Project Reality Forums

My advice to you is to always position your squad either so that its supported by a second squad, or so that you are supporting a second squad.

Your squad is your responsibility at the end of the day, but its not an island - two squads working together is a force multiplier depending on their equipment.

Stay relaxed, find your own style
https://www.realitymod.com/forum/f143-s ... are+you%3F



Sounds like you're doing alright already, but I expect there is one skill you have not learned, as its the skill that at least half the community do not yet understand - retreating.

If something isn't going well, just abandon it and try again later/in a differnet way.

do NOT compound failure with more failure. Charging repeatedly in to MG fire is reserved only for when there is no choice.

I hope to see you ingame :)

Re: Requesting Squad Leading Tips

Posted: 2011-03-25 16:10
by killonsight95
Oh and everyone says be confidant, that's hard for some, remember though;
- You are always right, even when your wrong
- always have a basic route for your map for example; go to first flag and defends untill next if capped then go to the 3rd flag and cap and defend. This allow you to change your tactics but always have set flags that you will defend and attack during the round that will always make you seem assertive because you know where your going.
- Don't worry if you die, you have 4 other guys to attack the enemy untill they all die, make sure the medic doesn't revivie anyone untill either the enemy is beaten or the enemy has gone.
- don't worry if you don't have an exact plan, a basic we'll attack here and here and here will work well and make sure the SQ know that you're going to go through the attack ina certain way eg. we'll attack that large building and once the main force is down *rifleman 1,2,3* attack that building and clear it while the other guys finnish off the rest and go through building like that.


Sorry for not laying this out correctly :L

Re: Requesting Squad Leading Tips

Posted: 2011-03-25 16:12
by Smiddey723
dtacs wrote:If you're not able to do it in the first place and have to ask for help, you shouldn't be doing it.
if this is eveyones attitude how is anyone supposed to learn how to do anything,you must have been new to squad leading at one time, does that mean you should have never started doing it?

a man that made no mistakes never made anything

Re: Requesting Squad Leading Tips

Posted: 2011-03-25 16:31
by goguapsy
killonsight95 wrote:- You are always right, even when your wrong
Oh yeah, this.

You do your thing - YOU are the SL, not your SMs...

Pay attention: TAKE SUGGESTIONS... But remember, YOU are in charge...

Re: Requesting Squad Leading Tips

Posted: 2011-03-25 16:41
by Punkbuster
I have 1 very important tip for you, keep high situational awareness, and I mean HIGH! keep checking your map every few seconds, know the map very well, know where are your team mates, what vehicles do you currently have running, who has what kit etc....

Re: Requesting Squad Leading Tips

Posted: 2011-03-25 18:26
by goguapsy
^No joke, about 30% of the whole round I'm looking at my capslock menu.

Re: Requesting Squad Leading Tips

Posted: 2011-03-25 19:26
by saXoni
dtacs wrote:If you're not able to do it in the first place and have to ask for help, you shouldn't be doing it.
Congratulations, you just won the award for dumbest comment ever.

Are you telling me that you knew how to squadlead the first time you started to play this game? No, you did not. You have to learn the game first.
Everybody needs practice to become greater at something. That includes help from other players that are more experienced than yourself.
I had no idea how to squadlead, but after a while, I must say I'm a decent SL. At least with pubbers.

Re: Requesting Squad Leading Tips

Posted: 2011-03-25 19:41
by karambaitos
dont worry about dtacs he has a mild superiority syndrome :)
being a bit democratic, meaning listening to your SMs ideas often has good results

Re: Requesting Squad Leading Tips

Posted: 2011-03-25 20:40
by Stoickk
Never underestimate the power of positive thinking. You will find yourself in a meat grinder from time to time. If you get negative, your squad will get negative, and the situation will fall apart. Stay positive, focused and confident, and work through it, and you will be surprised at how well your squad will help you turn the situation around.

Always give the impression that you know exactly what you are doing, even if you have no idea what you are doing. As long as your squad has faith in you, they will execute your orders without question, and you all stand a fighting chance. If your squad is questioning your orders instead of following them, everyone will end up getting killed. Keeping this in check is a combination of your confidence and attitude, and using the kick button, as someone else posted earlier.

Re: Requesting Squad Leading Tips

Posted: 2011-03-25 20:42
by HunterMed
killonsight95 wrote:Oh and everyone says be confidant, that's hard for some, remember though;
- You are always right, even when your wrong
that's one way to do it but I prefer listening to SMs too. DOnt be stupid and play rank on them if they are right and you are wrong - it is a game and not the real military.
gazzthompson wrote:Play off the other squads.

If your team is attacking, defend.

If they are heavy on one flank, move to the other etc. KEEP YOUR SQUAD CLOSE (Less than 50m) AT ALL(99%) TIMES!
this is the most important thing...

Re: Requesting Squad Leading Tips

Posted: 2011-03-25 20:47
by killonsight95
HunterMed wrote:that's one way to do it but I prefer listening to SMs too. DOnt be stupid and play rank on them if they are right and you are wrong - it is a game and not the real military.
true don't not listen to them, but don't take their advice all the time, you need to stay in control.