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Same map, Different faction
Posted: 2011-04-20 13:06
by chainsaw.exe
At the moment, the US seem to dominate the map lists. They have a lot of AAS maps which are usually the most played, and by far the most insurgency maps.
Now I can live with AAS I guess as there is more maps for different factions, they are just never really played or are buggy etc. but on insurgency I think there is a bit of an issue.
I'm not sure how easy this is, but could it be possible to have an alternate version of the map but with different factions? For example, Iron Ridge could have Britain alternatively seeing as they fight militia in Dragon Fly. Similarly, in AAS, Britain and Russia could fight in Kozelsk and Dragonfly. Also I guess Canada, Britain and Germany could fight in any Afghanistan maps, and I think that Britain may have been in Fallujah (although had a minor role)
I'm not trying to be anti-us or anything I'm just tired of shooting M16s
Re: Same map, Different faction
Posted: 2011-04-20 18:12
by Imchicken1
I like the idea, but this seems like a suggestion. Some maps could benefit from having different factions on different layers and such
Re: Same map, Different faction
Posted: 2011-04-20 18:45
by Pronck
Project Gameplay>Reality
Re: Same map, Different faction
Posted: 2011-04-20 18:46
by BroCop
I dont think its possible without making a clone of the map with the GPO changed to include some other faction (in other words: have a map with different factions as 2 separate maps)
Re: Same map, Different faction
Posted: 2011-04-20 19:05
by AfterDune
It's possible, but the voices can't be changed.
Re: Same map, Different faction
Posted: 2011-04-22 03:16
by dtacs
^ Meaning that only US Army/Marines could be put on a map, so Brits wouldn't be possible unless the Russians had the same voices.
Hypothetically a whole new map folder could be made thus giving maps different factions, but on the downside this would drastically increase the size of the installer.
Re: Same map, Different faction
Posted: 2011-04-22 03:42
by ShockUnitBlack
dtacs wrote:Hypothetically a whole new map folder could be made thus giving maps different factions, but on the downside this would drastically increase the size of the installer.
I think most people could handle that. Good idea.
On a related note, has PR looked into replacing some of the game's current voice acting... You can only listen to US Marine surfer-dudes tell you they need a medic so many times.
PS - Isn't there a setting that forces English-only VOs? Could that be relevant here?
Re: Same map, Different faction
Posted: 2011-04-22 12:43
by dtacs
Recording costs a pretty penny, and I don't think the devs want to shell out what money there is for voices when it can be better spent on development of more important things in Reality Studios itself. The only custom factions to do it so far are the Dutch, Russians, Australians, British and IDF (I think) With the sheer amount of US players however, it could surely be done.
As for the VO's, thats solely client-side, meaning that the files still have the voices of whatever factions are in-game.
Re: Same map, Different faction
Posted: 2011-04-22 14:00
by Rudd
due to teh voice thing it won't happen outside of a map audit for a game event.
but the situation is different for Canada, USA and USMC as others have stated.
all I'll say is that if this was implemented, it would be done on a map by map basis, as not all relevant maps are suitable for more than one of the teams.
Re: Same map, Different faction
Posted: 2011-04-22 15:20
by AfterDune
And then there's Hamas, MEC, Insurgents and Taliban. All use the same voices (in-game anyways).
Re: Same map, Different faction
Posted: 2011-04-22 15:32
by Rudd
problem is that insurgency maps are generally either 1) designed specifically around insurgency, or 2) very faction specific on OPFOR.
like, we cant just put HAMAS on to archer.
MEC could possibly feature on some insurgent maps, which might be fun since then the guys who love AAS and don't particularly like insurgency can play the insurgent maps.
it would certainly give alot more use of the 32 layer

Re: Same map, Different faction
Posted: 2011-04-22 15:51
by BroCop
Well Hamas on Jabal

Re: Same map, Different faction
Posted: 2011-04-22 19:43
by chainsaw.exe
Well if the multiple factions to a single map isn't really feasible, I guess what I'm trying to say in terms of feedback is that I'd like to play as other factions on insurgency, either by changing some of the other maps or having some new maps for different factions other than US. Just so factions feature equally in the game.