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2 zoom snipers glitch???
Posted: 2011-05-13 22:33
by LegioX
Ok, is it just me, or are the two zoom snipers so incredibly inaccurate.
I usually never miss with the M40 or M24 or the single zooms, but the two zooms like the Russian piece of **** can't hit $h1t.
On Yamalia
At 250m, thats right 250m, a Canadian FOB has a TOW and I have a PERFECT shot on that dude's head. I made sure the crosshair is on the same freakin pixel as the head.
On mumble, my team is planning a massive couterattack.
I tell the APC I have a clear shot to take down the TOW, and another dumbass standing on the tower waving his fking arms who can possibly see the sneak attack from the south.
So the APC is attacking from the North, and I shoot the TOW guy who didn't move... and nothing happens. He doesnt even flinch. 4 seconds. Shoot again. Nothing happens. Friendly APC gets royally fked. I get a shitload of shit from mumble. Guy on tower, I shoot at him and even though the stupid gun proly missed, he got scared off. So, I decided to use the sniper rifle as a suppressive weapon and take away attention because it can't hit anything
Anybody else have the problem? Because when I use the single zoom snipers, I hit with near perfection. If they don't die in the first hit, they usually bleed out within the minute.
Re: 2 zoom snipers glitch???
Posted: 2011-05-13 22:39
by Bringerof_D
i'm going to go ahead and assume you already have taken into account deviation and have waited the full settle. I have trouble with the sniper rifles too but that's just me not waiting long enough i always count to 5 or 6 but maybe i count too quickly is what i think. because usually after the first shot i wait another 5 and it hits no problem.
remember, even a split second too early could be a miss for you at longer ranges on double zoom it feels like the settle should already have shrunk to the point where you should be able to hit, BUT you are zoomed in farther. that means the same deviation from your point of view now might feel twice as much as it should be. at 100m it could be only 6 inches out, but at 200m it will be 1 whole foot.
it's a common thing that people complain about, they think in double zoom the deviation is F***ed up but really it isnt.
Re: 2 zoom snipers glitch???
Posted: 2011-05-13 22:43
by gazzthompson
Also BF2 hit latency must be taken into account
Re: 2 zoom snipers glitch???
Posted: 2011-05-13 23:03
by LegioX
Gazz, I know about that, but using the single zooms, I have no problem.
Bringerof D, I usually count to 10 so its not me waiting too short.
Re: 2 zoom snipers glitch???
Posted: 2011-05-13 23:09
by Lugi
Yep, I also experienced that, but i thought im just a noob and cant hit anything with this rifle.
Re: 2 zoom snipers glitch???
Posted: 2011-05-13 23:30
by TheComedian
Aim for the chest next time instead of trying a leet headshot.
Re: 2 zoom snipers glitch???
Posted: 2011-05-13 23:45
by Psyko
see....with the single zoom rifles you have to be closer to see that pixel for a head. and with the double zoom lenses you allow for the increased zoom by staying further away. so the tiny bit of deviation is a bit more exaggerated on the double zoom than it is on single. pro tip, dont snipe drunk.
Re: 2 zoom snipers glitch???
Posted: 2011-05-14 00:07
by Mouthpiece
gazzthompson wrote:Also BF2 hit latency must be taken into account
Even when firing at enemies that are standing still?
Re: 2 zoom snipers glitch???
Posted: 2011-05-14 01:32
by mockingbird0901
Yes, even then.
Re: 2 zoom snipers glitch???
Posted: 2011-05-14 01:55
by Psyko
Mouthpiece wrote:Even when firing at enemies that are standing still?
yes. the hit detection is quite poor. not terrible, but not great.
Re: 2 zoom snipers glitch???
Posted: 2011-05-14 02:28
by Stealthgato
Never had any problems with the SV-98. Considering only accurate shots (deviation settled) it misses 1, maybe 2 out of 10 shots.
Re: 2 zoom snipers glitch???
Posted: 2011-05-14 02:47
by llRvXll
TheComedian wrote:Aim for the chest next time instead of trying a leet headshot.
He isn't trying to be "LEET", a shot in the chest doesnt kill a regular army soldier in pr... it makes him get badly wounded (black and white), and the soldier can get down, use a patch and call a medic later...
and in spite of being shot in the head, the soldier still able to be revived .... lol
about the 2x scope "glitch" i've noticed that... looks like the american M40a3 is missing alot of shots... i have no problem with the 1x scope rifles, like the insurgent one... etc....
And yes... i always wait the seconds... i always take a look if the target is too far away in order to see if i'll need to adjust for the bullet drop... But it is missing all the shots... lol (and yes, i put the crosshair on the same pixel as the enemy's head)
maybe it isn't a glitch... i don't know... but it's harder to hit with 2x.
never had problem with that before 0.95
(sorry for my nooby engrish)
Re: 2 zoom snipers glitch???
Posted: 2011-05-14 03:07
by Oddsodz
I Wanit to be l337 Snipzorz Tip/hint, Press key number 3 before you fire. Wait for sound font to fully pass, That way you always know that you will not miss. Move a pixel in that time and you will have to start again. It's as Psykogundam says. You are a lot further away and so have to wait a lot longer.
Re: 2 zoom snipers glitch???
Posted: 2011-05-14 04:08
by Bringerof_D
llRvXll wrote:He isn't trying to be "LEET", a shot in the chest doesnt kill a regular army soldier in pr... it makes him get badly wounded (black and white), and the soldier can get down, use a patch and call a medic later...
and in spite of being shot in the head, the soldier still able to be revived .... lol
about the 2x scope "glitch" i've noticed that... looks like the american M40a3 is missing alot of shots... i have no problem with the 1x scope rifles, like the insurgent one... etc....
And yes... i always wait the seconds... i always take a look if the target is too far away in order to see if i'll need to adjust for the bullet drop... But it is missing all the shots... lol (and yes, i put the crosshair on the same pixel as the enemy's head)
maybe it isn't a glitch... i don't know... but it's harder to hit with 2x.
never had problem with that before 0.95
(sorry for my nooby engrish)
please do not use 1x/2x to define having 1 or 2 zooms the "x" is used to define the actual zoom as in how many times larger the image is magnified. by saying it the way you did it confuses people by thinking 1x = no zoom and 2x = 200% original "size"
Re: 2 zoom snipers glitch???
Posted: 2011-05-14 04:25
by scope
You probably hit the tow.
Re: 2 zoom snipers glitch???
Posted: 2011-05-14 07:02
by llRvXll
Bringerof_D wrote:please do not use 1x/2x to define having 1 or 2 zooms the "x" is used to define the actual zoom as in how many times larger the image is magnified. by saying it the way you did it confuses people by thinking 1x = no zoom and 2x = 200% original "size"
Lol, i think that they will understand what i meant by "1x scopes", you're correct though. It would be better if i said "1 zoom scopes, and 2 zoom scopes"
Re: 2 zoom snipers glitch???
Posted: 2011-05-14 11:22
by Truism
The hitboxes for infantry in crewed weapons are bugged to hell, it's a known issue (at least it was known 2 years ago, might have gone off the radar since then). I don't have a solution for you.
Re: 2 zoom snipers glitch???
Posted: 2011-05-14 12:25
by killonsight95
scope wrote:You probably hit the tow.
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Re: 2 zoom snipers glitch???
Posted: 2011-05-14 12:32
by Kingy
killonsight95 wrote:this
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I think the OP was saying that he shot the guy on the tow whilst the tow was facing in another direction to himself, giving a nice, clear and easy shot.
Found this to be an issue aswell, the SMLE, 1 shot on everything and any sniper I try to use the 2nd zoom function there's more of a chance i'll miss past 500m. Now I snipe with my nose pressed against the screen on the 1st zoom to get them distant shots
Re: 2 zoom snipers glitch???
Posted: 2011-05-14 12:38
by TheComedian
llRvXll wrote:He isn't trying to be "LEET", a shot in the chest doesnt kill a regular army soldier in pr... it makes him get badly wounded (black and white), and the soldier can get down, use a patch and call a medic later...
You CAN 1 shot an enemy when he is operating an emplacement. If he is not dead then atleast he won't be manning the TOW anymore. Have some common sense.