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Militia Need AK 74 Scope again !!!
Posted: 2011-06-09 12:39
by hanadul44
Hello and Morning,
We know that the Militia are not Insurgents.
Chechens live from the black market and captured weapons and stocks of older Soviets. One might see the militias as a paramilitary unit conventional.
The AK 74 Scope had filled many gaps and in an AAS map. Thus, the Militia is forced to face the melee. The Scope had been many opportunities and I wish back in the next patch.
I'm sure I'm not the only one who felt this way.
If you think the scope would be the military over power, then there is the possibility to limit the scope.
Squad Leader = AK74 Scope / / FN-FAL
Rifleman Scope AK74 = / / ak47
All other Specialkits as before. (UNSCOP / / UNSCOP)
If you think Scope AK74 fits not at all to the militia, then look at times single pair videos and old documentaries. Since they are teilwesie with AS VAL VSS and equipped.
At last I thank you and please Apoligize my bad english (:
It would really make the military fans a joy when the old akm 74 Scope was back in is.
Re: Militia Need AK 74 Scope again !!!
Posted: 2011-06-09 13:08
by Curry
who needs a scope if u can get an ironsight? keep the ironsights!
curry.
Re: Militia Need AK 74 Scope again !!!
Posted: 2011-06-09 13:17
by samogon100500
As you can see - no rail for optics.

It's first reason.
Second reason - all Militia map generally in forests or forest with small towns,not desert,thats why optics not so much needed.
P.S Militia - not only Chechen terroristic cell and FN FAL is not as Soviet gun as well.
Better idea - replace AKS-74U to standard AK-74.AKS-74U was not favorite gun in Russian army due characteristics.Chechen does not like this gun too(I never saw this gun,leader generally uses AKS-74 or modern AK-74(Brown plastic))
Re: Militia Need AK 74 Scope again !!!
Posted: 2011-06-09 14:59
by ShockUnitBlack
Tend to agree with the OP, although I believe the Militia as a whole should be conventionalized.
Re: Militia Need AK 74 Scope again !!!
Posted: 2011-06-09 15:14
by Cossack
No need for optics for militia. It's fine as it is right now from my point of view. I love to play as militia with ak-74. Perfect CQB weapon.

Re: Militia Need AK 74 Scope again !!!
Posted: 2011-06-09 15:36
by killonsight95
thew miltia seem a bit too much like the taliban for my liking, i would love thme to have sometihng to make thme a bit different, maybe add some western weaponry into their arsonal from america etc like hamas?
They need to look mroe like a bit of mismathc organisation just like the rebal forces in libya right now.
Re: Militia Need AK 74 Scope again !!!
Posted: 2011-06-09 16:14
by hanadul44
http://tantal.kalashnikov.guns.ru/high/ak-74n1p29.jpg
look at this, sure its possbile to add a scope, like the Film 9. company, you can see the rifle again.
I have a few documentaries on my HD, as you can see Chechen rebels with weapons from the arsenal of the soviets, including ranged weapons. The FN FAL is of course not to the Russian arsenal, but it is known as the AK 47 of the Western nations. which means that the FN FAL as the ak47 is everywhere.
Scope of course you can mount on AKM's, a rail must not be applied for, but it is screwed by a clamping system, but I'm not an engineer and not interested in me.
If you Iron Sight preferred, it is still okay. Nevertheless, it should be possible to decide between scope and iron sight.
For example, Fools Road or Dragon Fly, where you are separated by fields and valleys, have called for the distance a scope. If you think on such maps need no weapon scope, then I do not understand why the enemy is equipped with Scope!
My question also was no survey or who prefers what.
My question was, it is possible to the next patch, at least one AKM Scope to restore?
I love the Militia, but I was really disappointed that the scope AKM has been removed. Please set it again, this is not lost and there is also no time-consuming work. My request and the modders.
As described, if you thinks its overpowered etc what ever, gives the squad leader and the Rifleman a possibility between Scope and Iron Sight
my thanks
Re: Militia Need AK 74 Scope again !!!
Posted: 2011-06-09 16:51
by Agemman
Yes! Throw more scopes in there! Just more fodder to kill in CQB

Re: Militia Need AK 74 Scope again !!!
Posted: 2011-06-09 17:29
by Cheditor
The thing is they are not a conventional army, it hasn't been that long since optics have become standard in forces as such so I see no need to give them to them apart from Squad leaders, marksman etc.
Re: Militia Need AK 74 Scope again !!!
Posted: 2011-06-09 17:31
by Tarranauha200
Gimme 20x zoom scope with 1337 th3rm@lz mounted on AK-47 please.
Re: Militia Need AK 74 Scope again !!!
Posted: 2011-06-09 18:05
by samogon100500
Not everywhere,only at modern versions or if it updated.Very rare situations thats Wooden AK-74 got rails.I can found much more pictures with night or optical scopes,but this is no sense,in real life we got different situation.
P.S - AKM don't have rails,except for AKMN(Probably for using with 1 generation night scopes).But AKMN is very rare.And i don't sure thats they uses fully Soviet AK,It's possibly China or Yugoslavian copy,what not full 100% same as Soviet one for exampe.
P.P.S - 9. Company is not 100% realistic film.
hanadul44 wrote:If you Iron Sight preferred, it is still okay. Nevertheless, it should be possible to decide between scope and iron sight.
For example, Fools Road or Dragon Fly, where you are separated by fields and valleys, have called for the distance a scope. If you think on such maps need no weapon scope, then I do not understand why the enemy is equipped with a Scope
Well I understand you balance and other blah blah blah.
But also taliban does not have scopes.Insurgent does not almost naked.

Good tactics,what uses stronger sides of your faction would be - 90% of win.For militia - very good defensive tactics.Hide yourself deep in forest or in buildings and ambush enemy.Vehicles in forest or city useless.Enemy infantry should uses ironsights,same as your because Optics useless in forest too.
Re: Militia Need AK 74 Scope again !!!
Posted: 2011-06-09 18:19
by hanadul44
no conventionell army?
hm... they have Tanks, wich needs crewman kits, they got Apc, wich need also crewman kits, Also they can build Fobs, Militia Maps are 99% in AAS Mode. No conventionell Army is the Insurgent who have no Kits.
BTW, the Chechen army, which is also fighting for its autonomy status, even has its own military structure. They also got a elite Force, who are equipped with Silenced weapons and terraintcamoflage.
I think the militia is a conventional army in PR, even if not, it assumes the task of a conventional army.
peace!
Re: Militia Need AK 74 Scope again !!!
Posted: 2011-06-09 18:27
by ryan d ale
As long as my '47 doesn't have optics I don't care about the '74.
I hate the scope for it and I hate smaller calibres.
Re: Militia Need AK 74 Scope again !!!
Posted: 2011-06-09 19:07
by Nebsif
AK-74 is the perfect CQB weapon, why fix whats not broken? Its like installing a scope on a pistol, or taking a scope off a .50cal snipor.
You will suck in CQB, even to other scoped rifles like Tavor, and even if u try to use it at long range, 50% the guy u hit will take cover and stop the bleeding with the first field dressing. Just take a Dragunov, that thang rapes, or play on ur strengths, like samogon said and stick to urban/forest areas where u can easily kill lots of newbies with their fancy ACOGs.

Re: Militia Need AK 74 Scope again !!!
Posted: 2011-06-09 22:07
by Stealthgato
Maybe just for the squad leader, while the alternate is the FAL?
Re: Militia Need AK 74 Scope again !!!
Posted: 2011-06-09 22:55
by ShockUnitBlack
hanadul44 wrote:no conventionell army?
hm... they have Tanks, wich needs crewman kits, they got Apc, wich need also crewman kits, Also they can build Fobs, Militia Maps are 99% in AAS Mode. No conventionell Army is the Insurgent who have no Kits.
BTW, the Chechen army, which is also fighting for its autonomy status, even has its own military structure. They also got a elite Force, who are equipped with Silenced weapons and terraintcamoflage.
I think the militia is a conventional army in PR, even if not, it assumes the task of a conventional army.
peace!
Agree.
Right-click can still be irons folks, it's not like your gun would
have to have a scope.
Re: Militia Need AK 74 Scope again !!!
Posted: 2011-06-10 00:06
by Sneak Attack
Scope would b awesome. If you have a working set of eyes you will notice people really far away and not having a scope really hinders the ability to take em out without giving yourself away by having to shoot alot. Not having scopes forces you to get close to the enemy but if the enemy is aware of things around them then your gonna have a hard time doing that.
Re: Militia Need AK 74 Scope again !!!
Posted: 2011-06-10 05:38
by samogon100500
In real life - some conventional factions got no scopes or this scopes very rare.For example - in Russian army scope very rare,majority got ironsights.IDF got to much unscoped weapons(Some unitis uses TAR-21,but also not everyones,mostly uses old M16/M4),MEC(If it means Iran) - scopes got only some NCO.
And why you think thats militia should be have scopes,if soviet army doesn't uses scopes.
Re: Militia Need AK 74 Scope again !!!
Posted: 2011-06-10 06:40
by narref
Your squad can have a marksman, that's all the long range firepower you'll need in forest maps, play as a team.
Re: Militia Need AK 74 Scope again !!!
Posted: 2011-06-10 08:29
by KeksTerror
I agree with hanadul. More or less you don't only fight in urban areas. Almost every map on which Militia is placed as Blufor is split into a part of wide-scaled forest areas with some city placements in it (e.g. Dragon Fly, Iron Ridge). It is quite difficult to handle an enemy which is able to engange you on a much more far distances, than you.
The Chechen rebels are better equipped then many more forces around the world, but they got a status in PR which is closer to the Taliban than to a conventional force. This is a point I do not understand.
There is definitly a possibility as shown ahed (the AK-74 with the mounted scope on it). So why dont make it possible to place a scope on a few chechen weapons?