Kit request problems.

[Oak]

Two problems keep annoying me with the kit request system:

1. You can't request a kit you've already been issued.
2. You can't request a basic kit / return to your basic kit.

The first one is a problem if you lose your requested kit for some reason, and you reach a crate, yet you can't request it again even if that's precisely your role in the team.

The second is a problem when you realize one of the basic kits is necessary for your team (medic being an obvious example) yet everyone already spawned, or when you want to give away your kit but you don't want or unable to request any limited kit to replace it.

Is there some way to address these issues? I don't see how removing these limitations would damage gameplay in any way.

[Oak]

For issue one: The reason the time limit exists is so that people who carelessly loose kits (aka sniper kits and HAT kits) don't continue to waste them, especially if they don't know how to best use them. There is nothing worse than needing a HAT kit to take care of armor that is destroying you only to see that both HATs are being used and one of them is all by himself or off in some random part of the map doing nothing. The time limit on re-requesting kits makes people treat them with more care.

Please re-read what I said, I wasn't talking about time limit. That issue appears regardless of the time passed since the first request, in my experience.

The only way that you can do this atm is to have someone kill you, wait for your kit to disappear, select the kit you want on the spawn screen and then have your medic revive you.

Indeed, and death is also a work-around for the first issue. But I'm sure everyone agree these kinds of work-arounds are not desired.

[E4$Y]

Tarthkin, your not getting what Oak want's to say.Example:
You ask for a "crewman" kit, it spawns by your feet but someone else accidently takes it, and even if you wait for like two hours, you still can't request a "crewman" kit because it says: "This kit has been ALREADY issued to you" and the only way to get it again is to die or to ask someone from your squad/team to request it for you.

[Oak]

Ok but without this failsafe in place than you can just have one person request both sniper kits or both HAT kits for him and his buddy.

Again, the time limit is not the problem. Inability to ask a kit is.

The situation right now is absurd - if I die and respawn after 1 minute I can request my kit again, but if I die and get revived after 1 minute I can't (and 1 minute is enough to lose my kit). This actually encourages respawning over revival...

[Charity Case]

Kit limitations are there to keep people from squandering kits. If you've lost your kit due to someone else stealing it, request a different kit and then re-request your original kit (after waiting the required time). If you've lost your kit because you were wounded and then revived after the kit had despawned, well, I believe there's some way to get it back but I don't know the exact process, sorry.

As for spawn kits, that's really the SLs responsibility IMO. If I don't have a medic in my squad, I usually "promote" the next person who dies to medic. Also, I make it very clear to my squaddies not to take requestable kits without asking. That usually keeps the kit assignments controllable.

[lucky14]

My squad mate had some trouble with that on Muttrah. I was SL in a 3 player squad. An enemy APC was closing in, so I tell one of my guys to get an HAT (my other guy is a medic, and I am Officer). The APC was able to kill him before he got a shot off, but when my medic revived him, his kit already disappeared and he couldn't request ANY kit...

[Arnoldio]

g. The time limit on re-requesting kits makes people treat them with more care.

For the second issue: I would like to see standard kits requestable, especially the rifleman specialist and the medic kit. I find that these are the two that are most needed in a pinch. I dont know how easily this can be done or even if anything can be done about it.

On first look, i've been thinking about the same thing...but if you look at it from the other side. How the hell can a rifleman just become a medic in a second with no training at all

[Rudd]

Every soldier is given a basic life saver course, with options to learn more advanced methods iirc.

the medic 'kit' could just be the dude carrying the full first aid kit.