How to teach noobs how to play PR?

[Megagoth1702]

Hey dudes, since the BF2v banner lots of vanilla-dudes join our holy PR servers.
I see soloing, no-mic'ing, hacking and whoring.

You know, playing PR and having fun needs at least working infantery, so at least 2-3 squads with voip and a plan on whats going on. Since this is not given verry often I just don't have much fun playing with these guys. There is just too much solo-shit going on.

I do not really have much time to write a long text, so I'll make it short.


What do you do to teach the guys how to play the game?
Is it still fun for you even if you have a total noob squad?
How to stop PR becoming more like vanilla? Just waiting until the dudes get bored? Or what do you think on that?

The first three pages of PR discussion did not show such a topic so I guess there might be none, I hope this is not a double-somethin.

Good night fellas.

[Rudd]

What do you do to teach the guys how to play the game?

keep it simple stupid, don't let them get anything but riflemen unless you can find time to teach thema kit

Is it still fun for you even if you have a total noob squad?

can be, if its a n00b squad, and I am SL I state unequivocably that my orders are to be followed, those who do not follow can leave. If they cannot follow simple instructions, they get my patients, if they still cannot follow simple instructions, they get my boot. If its a n00b squad and I am a SM I offer my suggestions, and leave.

[Smegburt_funkledink]

There is a huge difference between a noob and a newb.

If I have noobs in my squad, I kick them. These would be guys that piss about, don't follow the squad and grab sniper kits in the middle of an urban fight. People that solo APCs in my infantry squad and idiots that waste assets get kicked.

Newbs however all deserve help. As Rudd has said, new guys should start out as riflemen. If time allows for it, I'll give them pointers during the game, afterall, we are just there to have fun.

However, if a newb is obviously completely clueless and can't seem to grasp the simple things he/ she should have learned in vBF2, I'll tell them to go and read the manual or start out on a training server.

[Megagoth1702]

Hell yeah I personally love the newbies, cuz they actually WANT to learn the game, they WANT to check it out and they WANT to have fun together with all the people here. It reminds us all of our first days, right?

I like teaching the dudes how to play this and like seeing them in my SQD again.

How is the communication working for you guys when the SMs have no mic?

[Smegburt_funkledink]

How is the communication working for you guys when the SMs have no mic?

I rarely play with guys that don't have a mic'

The few times I have, they tend to follow orders very well as they can't argue with you.

More often than not though, I'm playing with friends so room is usually made in the squad for someone that has a mic'.

The most memorable time for playing with a dude that didn't have a mic' was quite some time ago... I was in the same squad as Brummy and Carebear. Brummy just kept taunting CB by typing in squad chat "OMG you noob" etc... whilst TKing him with a knife. So, yeah, micless wonders can be annoying noobs sometimes.

[Ace42]

What do you do to teach the guys how to play the game?

Same thing I'm doing here; link them to:
https://www.realitymod.com/forum/f138-i ... nning.html

[Acemantura]

I wish their were a list of competent squad leaders and commanders on a server. This way only those on the list can be in those positions. All squads should be locked, and all squad leaders should be constantly trying to fill up their squad. If there are Noobs, simply kick the ******** from the squad, and then get them get kicked for not joining a squad. A quick and easy way to get rid of NOOBS, also VD (Smeg).

[Psyko]

make a squad with all of them together, take them to positions far away from the central point of flags, camp streets, get them to watch all different sides. do things that need teamwork. one hour of that and they will have gotten more practise than most lone wolves.

bring a vehicle. tell them to be stealthy. and not fire off their rifles like it doesnt matter. get them to value cover, and try to explain that if they die they will have longer spawn times exponentially.

[lucky14]

make a squad with all of them together, take them to positions far away from the central point of flags, camp streets, get them to watch all different sides. do things that need teamwork. one hour of that and they will have gotten more practise than most lone wolves.

bring a vehicle. tell them to be stealthy. and not fire off their rifles like it doesnt matter. get them to value cover, and try to explain that if they die they will have longer spawn times exponentially.

Other than having 1 newb in a squad learning a little from everyone by watching, this is probably the best way....

I was wierd. I actually studied before I played. I tore every guide, manual, and tactic until I knew PR by heart in .7

[Snazz]

I see soloing, no-mic'ing, hacking and whoring.

None of that behavior directly relates to being a newbie, for all we know they already do know how to play.

There's numerous reasons for why players might do such things.

There is a huge difference between a noob and a newb.

They're just different ways of spelling the same thing, another way is nub.

All shortened/modified versions of newbie, which obviously means new player/rookie.

Somehow it's been adapted to identify undesirable players regardless of whether they're new or not.

Which is confusing and pointless considering the vast amount of other words that can be more accurately used to describe an undesirable player, eg. smacktard, asshat, idiot, moron, ******, etc.

It also doesn't distinguish well verbally.

[Demonic]

For the love of god don't kick out noobs or ignore them. Just teach them ropes and refer them to the PR manuel. Because if you don't teach them than they will just go to another server and ruin another servers game-play and all you will end up with is more and more noobs stacking up because nobody bothers to teach them.

I personally hate whenever vBF2 noobs go to PR, they just completly ruin the game some-times like run off hummers and leave full squads behind with no transport and end up getting killed because he diddn't know you can't one man hummers.

However I also see it as a good sign because the more players who switch to PR and learn how to play = the more players who will be playing and filling servers and more PR clans. PR clans who will fill the community and sign up for the PR league.

I in no way would like to keep this PR community short and sweet. Sure its nice knowing everybody and remembering there names,etc but having more clan options (they are pretty limited atm) is far better. Having more servers to choose from and more players to fill inactive servers.

Think of it as a game, a game of trying to benefit the PR community. By adding new players who can actually play the game correctly and saving servers from having all these noobs running around crashing helo's and one manning hummers and APC's.

[Mad-Mike]

call ur sqd "VOIP ONLY" anyone that comes in without a mic kick them unless they follow ur orders and theyre are good and not a noob if u dont like them.
but most noobs are willing to listen to u and learn the game and they are like "wow i love PR now" im happy to teach noobs its just showing PR is Growing bigger and bigger. and that puts a smile on my face!

[John-117]

how do you get in tanks and parachutes?

[LudacrisKill]

How to teach a vannila noob...

1. Press T for sniper kit.
2. 30 seconds warm up time on the LB

and they are all set for PR, for noobs thats all they need to know

[lucky14]

They're just different ways of spelling the same thing, another way is nub.

All shortened/modified versions of newbie, which obviously means new player/rookie.

Somehow it's been adapted to identify undesirable players regardless of whether they're new or not.

Which is confusing and pointless considering the vast amount of other words that can be more accurately used to describe an undesirable player, eg. smacktard, asshat, idiot, moron, ******, etc.

It also doesn't distinguish well verbally.

Okay, let me help you out. Noob is for those stupid idiots ruining the game.

New-bie (shortened to newb) is used for unskilled players trying to get better at the game.

Plus, not everyone likes saying things like smacktard, asshat, idiot, moron, ******, etc. and that is why the word gets used. The only problem is that newbies get grouped with those idiots ruining the game.

[Tomato-Rifle]

I was teaching this newb the other day,(he had a mic and spoke english and had an accent) i tought him that you can zoom in apc, switch too heat rounds, and all that.

He did a bad job gunning, i was laughing how he completely missed all targets that we saw (but hey, its his first time playing and he probably had his land vehicle sensitivy settings too high because thats what it looked like).
but he was learning and thats all that matters. In the end of that we got attack by 2 little bombcars coming right at us and we died.

After that, i told him to spawn medic and i showed him how to switch to fully automatic, heal himself, and answered all the questions he had. He suppriesed me when we were on the ground he was a REALLY good shot with the British gun with iron sights.

I love to teach newbies how to play. Especially when the WANT to learn, not just "fly the leet choppah"

[rofflesnlols]

I was teaching this newb the other day,(he had a mic and spoke english and had an accent) i tought him that you can zoom in apc, switch too heat rounds, and all that.

He did a bad job gunning, i was laughing how he completely missed all targets that we saw.
but he was learning and thats all that matters. In the end of that we got attack by 2 little bombcars coming right at us and we died.

After that, i told him to spawn medic and i showed him how to switch to fully automatic, heal himself, and answered all the questions he had. He suppriesed me when we were on the ground he was a REALLY good shot with the British gun with iron sights.

I love to teach newbies how to play. Especially when the WANT to learn, not just "fly the leet choppah"

Completely agree with you there. Last night I helped out a guy that was in a different squad to mine, he asked a couple of questions over in-game text and the only reply people were giving him was "OMG just go and read the manual u nub".

Now I understand why it's easier to just refer people back to the manual, I just think that helping people in-game is much more inclusive and positive.

This guy was finding it hard getting to grips with some of the basic concepts of playing, asking questions like "Why am I still getting hurt? I'm not being shot!" (He was bleeding) so I just typed in a few replies and he seemed to get the idea and carried on playing.

All I'm saying is that it's easy to forget that everyone starts off a 'vanilla noob'. It's much nicer to play a game and get help from real people rather than just a sheet of text.
Just be friendly!

[dtacs]

Tell them that what they are doing is wrong, to go to realitymod.com or their desktop and read the guide, and if they say 'its too long, and don't be so srs its just a game' see them booted from the server.

[Megagoth1702]

Same thing I'm doing here; link them to:
https://www.realitymod.com/forum/f138...e-winning.html

Nice guide!

Could you please add this to your "GET MUMBLE" link? Just put it below it:
Mumble Setup for BF2.
Just BTW to all the mumble haters, here's another video pwning your TS&vent up the ***:
Latency Time Comparison TS&Vent vs. Mumble

Back to topic:

I was wierd. I actually studied before I played. I tore every guide, manual, and tactic until I knew PR by heart in .7

Wow, so we were weird together. I joined a game ASAP after I installed the mod, did not understand a shit and closed it straight away to read the damn manual of 0.85.

I went even further, I went to empty/local training servers just to practise flying the huey and all the other choppers before I even touched a pilot kit... It would be so embarassing to crash a chopper with a sqd in there n stuff, we all know that. It does not only cost tickets but it also costs reputation... Nobody will get into your chopper anymore.

1. Press T for sniper kit.
2. 30 seconds warm up time on the LB

and they are all set for PR, for noobs thats all they need to know

Lawl, so true.



Thanks for your inputs guys, you motivated me to give those guys a try or maybe five... ??:

Anyway, its so good to see all the good thoughts being rallied up here in one point, no pun intended...

If more of us play on "n00b-servers" PR will go stronger and take over China!

I'm off, its time for teachin'...

[wuschel]

Tell them that what they are doing is wrong, to go to realitymod.com or their desktop and read the guide, and if they say 'its too long, and don't be so srs its just a game' see them booted from the server.

There are always disturbing people on the servers. However, if they are willing to learn, You might want to give them a good lesson. Otherwise just give them a hint to use the training servers if they want to play/fool around.

1) Make new players aware that they should have a look at the manual, at least.
2) Give them a chance to learn some very basic stuff in Your squad: Rifleman or Medic, shooting, cover, communication.
3) Give them a good injection of team spirit, and make them understand that this game is all about teamplay.
4) Remind them that there are training servers if they want to check out advanced stuff, and that it is a long but rewarding way to learn new things in this game.