How does the PR Community feel about this:

S.O.P · Post by **S.O.P** » 2006-05-31 02:43

Our Australian servers run a 15 seconds critically wounded time and 0 attrition.

A member of our community has also just posted a fix (hack) on how to get Kill messages back into the game.

eggman: link removed

Personally, I'm against them both. Having played with a 15second critical time has totally changed the feel of the game. Its so close back to vBF2 its not funny, the only changes being accurate weapons. Noone cares for their life, noone shows any sembelance of teamwork (except for the old school PRMMers). I'm trying to petition to have the changes reverted but am being met with very little cooperation.

Discuss.

Hot Tub Man #1 · Post by **Hot Tub Man #1** » 2006-05-31 03:38

Well, linking to the "hack" definitely isn't gonna help your cause. I'd probably take that down, just so it doesn't spread around here.

As for the spawn time, I agree with you fully.

Post by **eggman** » 2006-05-31 04:02

Unfortunately .. there is little we can do to control some aspects of this. The same issues are there in vBF2.

We do want server admins to have some flexibility, and it's actually impossible to prevent admins from changing certain values.

It's unfortunate that in some markets, there is not a large enough player population to have a choice of servers... and you can land on one to your liking.

Fixing that is our focus!

egg

Post by **Rhino** » 2006-05-31 04:02

but that "hack" should have a conflict with punkbuster shouldnt it?

S.O.P · Post by **S.O.P** » 2006-05-31 05:50

I don't think PB is run on the servers.

Post by **Rhino** » 2006-05-31 05:52

S.O.P wrote:I don't think PB is run on the servers.

can you 2x check next time you go on for us please. If it aint, and they like to do small "hacks" like this they are probaly doing other hacks as well.

Post by **eggman** » 2006-05-31 05:54

actually this propblem is inherited from vBF2... MD5 and/or punkbuster does not check this stuff

afaik anyways

egg

Post by **Rhino** » 2006-05-31 05:57

'[R-DEV wrote:eggman']actually this propblem is inherited from vBF2... MD5 and/or punkbuster does not check this stuff

afaik anyways

egg

is there any way to make them start checking this stuff?

Post by **eggman** » 2006-05-31 06:05

'[R-DEV wrote:Rhino']is there any way to make them start checking this stuff?

Dunno .. should ask Fritz. I agree it's an issue. But I think vBF2 ignores it, so not sure if PR can force it. PunkBusted might have more options.

egg

S.O.P · Post by **S.O.P** » 2006-05-31 06:21

I'm sorry I posted the link but I at least wanted a DEV to check it out.

I've had the post removed now by official means so thats one step in the right direction.

Its a sad state of affairs when stuff like that starts happening.

Dylan · Post by **Dylan** » 2006-05-31 06:43

Doesnt that just put a boot up the *** of everyone invloved in PRM? They shouldnt have done that. It takes the fun out of the mod, and i belive it is a disgrace to hear those words.

bigbossmatt · Post by **bigbossmatt** » 2006-05-31 07:14

I agree, I think I'm playing on the same servers as you S.O.P. and the 0 attrition (SP?) is actually a bad thing. The spawns are too short on this particular Australian server!

Post by **Rhino** » 2006-05-31 07:26

SOP did u get the name of this server?

.:iGi:. Greg · Post by **.:iGi:. Greg** » 2006-05-31 07:56

Don't understand this at all. Why have a PRMM server, then put in loads of hacks to make it like crappy vanilla? Why not just have a vanilla server???

S.O.P · Post by **S.O.P** » 2006-05-31 10:37

Its the only populated server in Aus. Gamearena #21 (its in my user title).

Like I said before, I've had the offending post to the PRMM hacks removed, have also spoken to a Captain of the offender's clan. I have petitioned the server to be returned to normal settings, just waiting on the work order to go through I believe. They may bring it back at 20-25 though.

Since the offending post is removed, I'll link you to the thread again. Its the main PRMM thread in Australia, only one is needed.

http://www.gamearena.com.au/messageboar ... hp/3635844

Its been a WIP. I keep changing the Thread title and first post with tidbits of information. Page 7 is where the post was removed and our counter arguments. Last post is by Binstar, the admin I have been speaking with.

Edit: I just raged the guy in IRC and then spoke with him over TS. I'm not sure what he will do, but I explained why it would give one an advantage and asked him not to do it. He said he may mod it to do other things like points etc. Can't stop the kids I suppose.