AA3 DMR = M16A4 DMR ?

[supahpingi]

I think we should keep the m14 for both atleast one fo teh factions,for diversity's sake,having another m16 or a lookalike(mk12) wouldnt make me happy

And teh m14 is already ingame so doesnt add extra work

[Arnoldio]

if omeone can be arsed to do the work it could be made as right click= m14, left click =m16/mk12

[mrnothing]

If we can trust wikipedia, SAM-R is issued only to II MEF units (22nd, 24th and 26th MEUs) and we probably can because I've never seen SAM-R anywhere else than those units.

They are probably using Mk12 pretty much and I think M39 will be more common in the future.

Because PR is based on the Marines in general (not talking any special units or divisions) i don't think the SAM-R would make it. Who knows if that is true or not.

The M39 as stated early by [R-DEV]Eddie Baker, is only given to special units.

However, the Mk. 12 in my opinion would be a nice switch for the Marines specifically. I don't know what the Army's dominate marksmen rifle would be though.

To be honest i'm not a fan of the M14. I'd rather have a platform that is very similar to the M16A4. If a person were to be used to the deviation lets say that the M16A4 has, then switching over to the Mk. 12 wouldn't be really an issue. The fact that it looks close to an M16A4 won't make him a immediate threat to the enemy. The fact that it uses the common 5.56 round the M16A4 uses makes it easy to share ammunition if the DM does run out of ammo. And also the recoil would be similar to the M16A4 compared to the M14's recoil.

[mrnothing]

We're keeping the M14 as the US Army and USMC DMR for 0.8. After 0.8, the marines will switch over to the Mk12SPR. -[R-DEV]Jaymz

Was just wondering if that's still in effect and if it's true that there are plans to swap the M14 DMR for the Mk. 12

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USMC / USArmy Sniper separation

[Chuc]

Problem is the fact that the mk12's as an art asset is still inferior to the quality of the M16 range that we're currently using, so its just a matter of bringing that up to scratch.

[ReaperMAC]

Problem is the fact that the mk12's as an art asset is still inferior to the quality of the M16 range that we're currently using, so its just a matter of bringing that up to scratch.

*pokes Katarn with a giant stick*

[Hunt3r]

Either the Army or Marines, I believe, are using the M110 (Basically the original AR-10, the ArmaLite we have now has a different design they call the AR-10.)

Either as a sniper or DMR, I forget.

[mrnothing]

Either the Army or Marines, I believe, are using the M110 (Basically the original AR-10, the ArmaLite we have now has a different design they call the AR-10.)

Either as a sniper or DMR, I forget.

The M110 hasn't officially replaced the US army's current sniper system, the M24 SWS, but is slowly as they've been fielded already to certain units.

now i don't know about the marines and them replacing ALL of their M40A3's for Mk. 11's, but i know they have been fielded already.

All in all though, if your thinking whether the 2 systems will make it or not (M110 and Mk. 11) your out of luck. It's not necessary for the sniper to have a semi-automatic sniper rifle when really their main roll is reconnaissance and feeding valuable information to squads or the commander. They're not used to go rambo on their own and shoot people (though they do kill HVT's (high value targets)). If you place more then enough distance between you and the enemy, there is no need for the semi-auto rifle as again, you want to stay low profile and not be seen/heard. Shooting 20 rounds down the range can cause a hefty sound and seen. Plus, why do you need that many rounds ? its precession that counts, cause really - it should be 1 shot - 1 kill. There should not be 20 chances to get it right, there should only be 1.

[Hunt3r]

The USMC will continue issuing the M14 DMR as it's standard DMR for the future until a better (read: CHEAPER.) option is available. The cost of turning a mothballed M14 into a DMR is cheap. Buying an SR-25 and sniperising it is not. The US Army will continue using the SDM-R.

[Viper5]

Instead of everybody tossing their .02 and/or what they're neighbor's third wife's cousin said, can't we just ask comatose?

[Kenny]

Is the mk12 the same as a Sr25 or is it some how different?

[Hunt3r]

Is the mk12 the same as a Sr25 or is it some how different?

One shoots 5.56 NATO, the other shoots 7.62 NATO.

[ReadMenace]

Is the mk12 the same as a Sr25 or is it some how different?

The SR25 is chambered in 7.62x51 while the Mk12 is chambered in 5.56x45.

-REad


Ninja'd by Hunt3r.

[Gooze]

The Mk 12 was in the game previously I believe, unless I'm mistaking it for another weapon. I think it was around 0.5, along with the Kimber.

[MAINERROR]

Yes the MK 12 was in PR.

[Eddie Baker]

The Mk 12 was in the game previously I believe, unless I'm mistaking it for another weapon. I think it was around 0.5, along with the Kimber.

Yes, the Mk-12 was in PR, but to my knowledge, there was never a Kimber. Are you sure you're not thinking of the P226?

[Maxfragg]

so i guess keeping the M14 for the Marines would be the best option, but should the US Army use the SDM-R or the M110 because the M110 really seams unsuitable as sniper rifle, and i guess there are a lot of people that would dislike to see the m14 been taken out of PR. the SDM-R ofcause would mean less work, since it could use the m-16 model as base, while the SR-25 based M110 would have to be made from the scratch

[Eddie Baker]

I think you're getting confused, Maxfragg. M110 is not (and most likely will never be) issued at the rifle or scout squad level in the US Army. The SDM-R and M14 have been.

The Marine Corps uses the M14 variants (M39 and the PWS-assembled M14 DMR) for the designated marksmen in Embassy Security Group detachments, Security Forces units (including FAST and RTT) and EOD units, and for the Marksman-Observers in Military Police SRTs. The mentioned M14 variants and more recently the Mk-11 (SR-25 variant similar to M110) are also "tools in the box" for the Scout-Sniper Platoons of the rifle battalions, and for Scout-Snipers in Recon and MARSOC units. They are not issued at the conventional rifle squad or LAR dismount scout team level; the SAM-R, M16A4 and Mk-12 have been.

As stated earlier, we want to go with what weapon is most common at the conventional rifle squad level for the Marksman kit; it represents a squad-level designated marksman, not a "stalk-trained" sniper with a semi-auto rifle.

[mrnothing]

Black Hills' Mk 262 Mod 1

The article above talks about the Mk. 12's ammunition, the Mk 262 mod 1 which is an improved version of the 5.56 and provides better accuracy.

[Meehow818]

Sorry, but english please xD - no but seriously mind explaining a bit more ?




Yea i saw some photo's of Marines using the Mk 12, but does the Marines in General (excluding any special marine units) use the mk 12 ?

btw look what i found lol

Do you guys know where i can find the Mk12 silenced in the pr 0.17 It has it in the MemeAtlas_1?