Insurgency+ numbers
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RHYS4190
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Insurgency+ numbers
my idea is to make the insurgency more fun. allow the insurgency have more people then the blue force team, 32vs32 is ok for a AAS map but for insurgency i think it does not work out as well.
And this proposition is not exactly unrealistic or wrong, it will documented that blue force is far out numbered by the taliban in Afghanistan,
And also the taliban would simply refuse to rise up against blue force for any reason unless they had a more men or another kind of advantage because with out it suicide and completely pointless to fight blue force.
So it not exactly realistic to begin with having 32v32 in insurgency to begin with. they would in actual fact refuse to fight.
And it would breath some new life into insurgency, right now insurgency is really just a justified slaughter house and it really stale game play.
if the team's where adjusted to give the insurgence more people then it would make things a lot more fun and interesting for every one.
the blue force team would have to be more careful not to be overly aggressive and over extend them self’s and risk being cut off. Pilot’s would have to be on call all the time to assist squads when they run into heavy resistance/provide extractions when needed (every wants to do one of those)
With more people on the insurgency team it would course the game mode to became more planed and organised compared to the random pooh fight we have on pub servers these days.
the insurgence with more man power would be able to facilitate the planing and executing of larger ambushes and id imagine help give them a credence to become more organised.
And it at lest worth a try and im pretty positive that it will be lot of fun.
Just try it 45 vs 15, see what happens or even 50 vs 10
I seriously doubt blue force would suffer from this, there weapons and logistics are far more superior to the taliban quite frankly they can handle being out numbered 5 to 1.
And this proposition is not exactly unrealistic or wrong, it will documented that blue force is far out numbered by the taliban in Afghanistan,
And also the taliban would simply refuse to rise up against blue force for any reason unless they had a more men or another kind of advantage because with out it suicide and completely pointless to fight blue force.
So it not exactly realistic to begin with having 32v32 in insurgency to begin with. they would in actual fact refuse to fight.
And it would breath some new life into insurgency, right now insurgency is really just a justified slaughter house and it really stale game play.
if the team's where adjusted to give the insurgence more people then it would make things a lot more fun and interesting for every one.
the blue force team would have to be more careful not to be overly aggressive and over extend them self’s and risk being cut off. Pilot’s would have to be on call all the time to assist squads when they run into heavy resistance/provide extractions when needed (every wants to do one of those)
With more people on the insurgency team it would course the game mode to became more planed and organised compared to the random pooh fight we have on pub servers these days.
the insurgence with more man power would be able to facilitate the planing and executing of larger ambushes and id imagine help give them a credence to become more organised.
And it at lest worth a try and im pretty positive that it will be lot of fun.
Just try it 45 vs 15, see what happens or even 50 vs 10
I seriously doubt blue force would suffer from this, there weapons and logistics are far more superior to the taliban quite frankly they can handle being out numbered 5 to 1.
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Gore
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Re: Insurgancy+ numbers
If this unbalance were to be implemented, the insurgents shouldn't be able to pick up allied weapons.
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AppyUntinx
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Re: Insurgancy+ numbers
US isent actualy outnumbered by the taliban, to think of it the taliban in afghanistan is the one that is outnumbered.
US: 26,215
Taliban: 7,000-10,000
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_in_Afg ... %93present
Do some research please before posting.
US: 26,215
Taliban: 7,000-10,000
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_in_Afg ... %93present
Do some research please before posting.
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Gore
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Re: Insurgancy+ numbers
It's correct on the US numbers but you can't really put a number on how many rebel fighters there are.AppyUntinx wrote: US: 26,215
Taliban: 7,000-10,000
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_in_Afg ... %93present
Do some research please before posting.
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AppyUntinx
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Re: Insurgancy+ numbers
Thats why wiki put it between 7000-10000 because thats how many NATO believes there is in afghanistan from their intelligence reports.
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RHYS4190
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Re: Insurgancy+ numbers
The entire US government does not have any idea how many taliban there are, And what you think your going to find out on wiki? Wake up. think before you post. roflAppyUntinx wrote:US isent actualy outnumbered by the taliban, to think of it the taliban in afghanistan is the one that is outnumbered.
US: 26,215
Taliban: 7,000-10,000
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_in_Afg ... %93present
Do some research please before posting.
if the US government are stating such a low number then it very safe to say it simply propaganda or it just bull shit, you can't trust that source.
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Brummy
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Re: Insurgancy+ numbers
Shorter spawntime equals more reinforcement.
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AppyUntinx
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Re: Insurgancy+ numbers
No they dont do they newb, the US gov knows everything about the taliban of course they know how many there is its just like saying we dont know how many soldiers the us has got newb.
Edit: User was warned for "Insulting Other Member/Flaming". This is a good example of how not to answer someone on these forums.
Edit: User was warned for "Insulting Other Member/Flaming". This is a good example of how not to answer someone on these forums.
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him_j
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Re: Insurgancy+ numbers
I somehow find it hard to believe that there are 7,000 - 10,000 taliban fighters out there.
but on the case of the thread, I think that it would overpower the Opfor side somewhat. I believe that the taliban are strong enough as it is and with 45 - 15 would the fighting go stale due to the fact the taliban have to hunt down the US? I dont know.
But you know its always worth a try right, maybe you could ask it to be implemented on a community event night, and see what happens?
but on the case of the thread, I think that it would overpower the Opfor side somewhat. I believe that the taliban are strong enough as it is and with 45 - 15 would the fighting go stale due to the fact the taliban have to hunt down the US? I dont know.
But you know its always worth a try right, maybe you could ask it to be implemented on a community event night, and see what happens?
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Gore
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Re: Insurgancy+ numbers
What server are you admining AppyUntinx?
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RHYS4190
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Re: Insurgancy+ numbers
well it is worth a try, and i don't think the insurgency team would have to hunt for blue force at least not very long. not with that many people looking
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AppyUntinx
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Re: Insurgancy+ numbers
First of all so what if i joined the forums a couple of days ago that doesent meen anything
Second i know where you are comming from but the US must have an idea of how many there is.
Second i know where you are comming from but the US must have an idea of how many there is.
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RHYS4190
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Re: Insurgancy+ numbers
AppyUntinx wrote:First of all so what if i joined the forums a couple of days ago that doesent meen anything
Second i know where you are comming from but the US must have an idea of how many there is.
Forget about it let's not flame, the dev really don't like people flame waring on there forums, they'll cut your balls off if they catch you doing it. lol
And yeah i think the US has a rough idea about how many insurgency there are but i don't think they are shearing the true number.
There pretty desperate to demonstrate that they are making head way in this war and that it will end in the foreseeable future. if it was a conventual war you could perhaps guess.
But this is not a conventional war. this war is a jihad a holy war, these things can go on for hundreds of years. i would not be surprised if my children will be fighting this same war in 60 years time it is the nature of these things to drag on a long time and be extremely bloody.
Though in history’s eye’s this is the most bloodiest jihad in world history, and the death toll when this war eventually ends will most likely make W2 death toll look little worse then a scraped knee.
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05grottim
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Re: Insurgancy+ numbers
I dont think he was flaming, just trying to get his point acrossRHYS4190 wrote:Forget about it let's not flame, the dev really don't like people flame waring on there forums
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gazzthompson
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Re: Insurgancy+ numbers
agree, INS need a fix spawn of say 25 seconds or something and more spawns. this will give the BLUFOR a feeling of being outnumbered and surrounded. like it should rather than now when its complete opposite.Brummy wrote:Shorter spawntime equals more reinforcement.
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RHYS4190
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Re: Insurgancy+ numbers
gazzthompson wrote:agree, INS need a fix spawn of say 25 seconds or something and more spawns. this will give the BLUFOR a feeling of being outnumbered and surrounded. like it should rather than now when its complete opposite.
that could be quite fun, untill we actually do it we don't really know. you might like this version a lot better because of it
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AppyUntinx
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Re: Insurgancy+ numbers
Defo need a quicker spawn time and more spawning areas


