wookimonsta wrote:alright, i have to say, i approve 99% percent of this server.
there is one thing that bugs me though. its the rule: first squad with named assets gets all the assets. this leads to 4 apc/tank/heli/whatever squads being created at 1:30 and whoever does it first wins and gets three apcs. this means that whoever is most efficient at clicking custom squad wins the field and takes the apcs, regardless of their skill.
Rules regarding Assests is one of the most difficult to come up with and make sure everyone is pleased, Eventually we would like to remove rules regarding Assests, and trust people to make intelligent decisions on what they should be doing, and share/co-ordinate assest usage. However at the minute this is not possible and so in order to avoid arguments we have created a clear definition of what is/what is not acceptable.
wookimonsta wrote:
now, most times, the ones that get it first are content with 2 of whatever they reserved and can live if the other two go to another squad.
but not today, i was playing in a squad that had four people in it on kufrah oilfield. we were the second squad with an apc reserve and when we last checked, the first one had only 5 people.
I'm assuming by this you mean their was 2 apc squads. The first had 5 and your's the 2nd had 4 people in it. From this assumption I think your first point is correct in that you each get 2 Apc's.
wookimonsta wrote:
we figured, well 5 people, they need 2 apcs right? so we grabbed the other two apcs and headed out there. we waited for troops, but at the time apparently nobody wanted a ride (what with 4 apc squads...). then my apc was covering a flag and the other apc was busy engaging the enemy and had already taken out two enemy apcs. then we noticed what all the chat that was going on was about.
In this case yes, 2 Apc squads with Enough Apc's for 2 each, seems about right.
wookimonsta wrote:
it was about whoever was left in the first squad whining for a good 5 minutes about how the first squad gets 3 apcs and everyone else gets whats left over. in the meantime, i was busy looking out for enemy apcs. this whining went ON AND ON AND ON, and it just so happened, that there was an admin in this squad (don't ask me who, i don't remember) who warned us while the rest of his squad was swearing at us.
Okay I have a copy of the Chat log (If you want it PM me) and the people who warned you had no Admin rights for the server.
In this case, you had a 4man APC Squad, the other Squad was 5man When you departed from the base in Your APC's. Because of the size of the other Squad at the time of you leaving, they had no right to insist you return the Apc.
Another example of this could be if you had a Sniper Squad and where happy Sniping out on the Field while an Infantry squad, a Squad was then created called "Sniper." They would not have the right to ask you for this back.
wookimonsta wrote:
now i understand its a rule, and i can see how this rule can often times be an important one. but you don't have to be such a **** about it. when i checked just before the round started, there were only 5 people in that squad, so we only took two apcs and started playing. but then they were whining so much and the admin warned us so we drove back the apc, got out and disconnected.
I'm sorry to here of this Experience, like I've said i looked through the Chat log's and the people who where originally demanding the returning of the APC where not Admins. If you encounter a problem like this again, please feel free to visit our forums and make your case known.
wookimonsta wrote:
my question is, wouldn't it have been more productive to take one for the team? turn your apc squad into a mec inf squad? rather than sitting around in the main base for a good 5 minutes whining about how its the rules they could've helped cap the flags.
Unfortunately not everyone follows this mindset and so the mentioned argument ensued.
wookimonsta wrote:
it happens to me often, especially on maps like kashan or oilfields, that even though i have the first squad open with 6 people in it, we only get two tanks. i say fine, the other two either jump on the mgs up top or grab some useful kits and drive a truck.
I'm glad that you have the deceny to not try and cause an arugment, however in these cases, you do have the right to say something, as the assets where assigned to your squad.
wookimonsta wrote:
so i'm not saying they werent working within the rules, im just saying, don't be a ****, and if things don't go your way, don't whine continously for 5 minutes, instead do something useful.
don't just think of yourself, think of the team, and maybe when someone else creates the first squad, they wont ***** and moan and whine if you take two of the apcs eh?
I completely agree with you mate.
wookimonsta wrote:
Apart from this, i usually enjoy playing on the server alot, but this just really bugged me today.
I'm glad you generally enjoy your experience, I'll keep an eye out for future situations like this.
Cheers,
Shavid
Apologies to any posts below this that take me a while to respond to, I'm out of the country until the 5th of August.
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