helicopter repairing other helicopters

[wookimonsta]

i know something similar has been suggested before, with helicopters dropping repair stations, but this is a bit different.

i was recently flying around jabal with a whole squad, when i took an aa hit that took out my engine.
i managed to land anyways and the infantry headed off. they had a combat engineer with them who tried to fix the chopper but it didn't work.

the problem was, i was downed on a hill in the middle of nowhere, where the only repair truck on the map could not reach me at all. eventually another chopper came to pick me up, but we had to leave my chopper there and took off to the carrier.
it would have been nice if the other chopper could've been able to repair my chopper (by dropping a sort of repair station that only works on choppers) or at least if the combat engineer could've gotten it working again.
i didn't need it with full health, but if the engine had worked, i could've gotten it back to the carrier.

alternatively, bring is the wires for the hueys from bf vietnam and let us carry other choppers back to base XD.

but for a serious alternative, if there was a kit that didn't fully repair a vehicle, just stop any burning (or damage that it keeps taking) and maybe gets the treads/engine back to working. it would allow a vehicle to limp back for repairs. you could drop him by a damaged vehicle. the the thing is, he can only do a certain amount of repairs before he "runs out of ammo" so to speak. then he has to go to a crate to get "spare parts" to keep repairing a vehicle.

[ozliam41]

i like this idea it sounds good when u have a down choppa and no truck can get 2 it your screwed

[j45h89]

A like this suggestion. I think tho only the big helicopters should be able to carry a repair station, or maybe to different class of helicopter one that carries crates and one that carries repair stations. Carrying both may be a bit to much unless its something like a MI-17, Merlin etc.
A vehicle mechanic class would be a good idea too, not just the combat engineer. Or maybe adding it so that a combat engineer can only repair vehicles with a crate or repair station nearby. Just to make it more realistic.

[TeRR0R]

I like this idea. This encourages more teamwork without being a problem for gameplay.

[chuckduck]

I made a suggestion like this a while back, but it was on another thread.
I think i can remember the general outline of my sugggestion.

New/Modified Kits:

HELO PILOT/CREW, Only requestable when standing next to an unmanned helicopter. (Stops everyone trying to get a pilot kit and get a chopper)
The Heli kit repair ablitity means that if there is 2 pilots 1 heli, the pilot who doesnt get to pilot the heli can hop in the back and help repair the heli, READ BELOW. This hopefully means you wont get half of the friggin team waiting on the carrier to pilot a heli.

- Cabine/Smg
- Pistol
- Knife
- Red Smoke Grenade
- Field Dressing
- Fire Extiguisher ("Helicopters field dressing", Heals the chopper and extra 20%, saving it from burning and then crashing)
- Wrench (Repairs the heli, limited repair while repairing while the player is in the heli. The wrench can repair the heli more on the heli has landed and the player repairs from the outside)
- and most importantly NO PARACUTE


JET PILOT, Only Requestable when standing next to a jet. Stops everyone requesting a pilot kit, which leads to people waiting at the main base or getting pilot kits to make a Para Assault

(Pistol, probably not since they have already taken it out for a good reason, but it is kinda stupid having no pistol, if you behind enemy lines.)
Knife
Red Smoke Grenade
Field Dressing
PARACHUTE

Basically make 2 new kits as stated above and make them only requestable next to that class of vehicle, to stop people all getting a pilot kit and waiting for a vehicle, or to stop people para dropping to cap CPs.

If you are at all confused about what im trying to say, please let me know.
Thanks i hope you understand what im trying to get at here.

[Qaiex]

I support being able to drop a repair station from the main transport helicopters.
Would give pilots more to do in the game and put armour and downed helicopters at a better advantage.
Supply trucks can't make it everywhere, and helicopters are just as capable of transporting the same equipment.

[wookimonsta]

first off, this isn't a suggestion for 2 seperate kits for jets/choppers (and crewmen). i think this has been discussed before, don't throw it into any thread remotely related please.

as for the helicopters dropping repair stations like the trucks. I would personally like to see it as it would be more fun for pilots when they have nothing to do. However this has also been discussed before I believe and is not the point.
Its about downed helicopters that are not exploded being able to be put back in action.

[Rudd]

I'm not a huge fan of this suggestion since it kinda makes the logi trucks useless

but I would be happy seeing the engineer gain some repair abilities back so that he can get choppers flying again from the field

[wookimonsta]

I'm not a huge fan of this suggestion since it kinda makes the logi trucks useless

well, my suggestion isn't that the choppers can repair any vehicle, just other choppers.

[Neo_Mapper]

Maybe give the Combat Engineer the repair ability back, but with very limited "ammo". So he has to stand near some kind of supplies while repairing the chopper/tank... There could also be some kind of "repair hummve" which carries a big supplie box with allot of ammo. But cannot be used to build an firebase.

Choppers could just use their big supply boxes, which they already have to give the engineer the possibility to repair something.

This is the way I could see the problem solved in a somehow realistic way. Dont know anything if it is possible to make the engineer wrench not to have unlimited ammo... - from the hardcodness aspect.

[Rudd]

This is the way I could see this problem solved in a somehow realistic way. Dont know anything if it is possible to make the engineer wrench not unlimited ammo from the hardcodness.

I don't think there is

BUT!

I think you can make his repair speed very very small, so its the same difference.

[wookimonsta]

uhm, how about you just give his wrench an overheat?
he can do a certain amount of repairing, then he has to wait. simulates him getting spare parts etc

[DannyIMK]

If already heli repair other helis, they should be able to repair land vehicles.
there can be vehicles like Super Stallion for US, Chinook/Merlin for Brits, And Mi for russia and mec

[wookimonsta]

sorry engineer, ill explain the details. we got hit by an aa and i managed to land in the far part in the west where there are hills that are unclimbable by any truck. the position itself was not under aa fire, i had gotten quite far since then.

my real problem is that since the chopper didnt explode, but just sat there, it didn't respawn. this left us a chopper short.

a similar situation i saw was in muttrah, a chopper getting hit near docks by aa from the mosque and landing on top of some of the stacks of containers at the docks. it was in perfectly safe friendly territory, but nobody could repair it.

[00SoldierofFortune00]

I support being able to drop a repair station from the main transport helicopters.
Would give pilots more to do in the game and put armour and downed helicopters at a better advantage.
Supply trucks can't make it everywhere, and helicopters are just as capable of transporting the same equipment.

I agree, make a varient of the repair crate droppable from helos. This way on maps like Jabal, Muttrah, and other hilly maps or maps with few LOG trucks, APCs and armor can be repaired as well as helos.

[burghUK]

Easily sorted by giving engineers the ability to repair vehicles .

[octo-crab]

If your helicopter got hit hard enough to make it not fly anymore, then you probably had a pretty hard landing resulting in damage to multiple parts of the helicopter such as the skids, electrical, rotors, engine, controls, etc. Field repairs are just not going to happen. Best case scenario is after the battle they would recover the helicopter and repair it back at the base where they have the personnel, tools, safety, know-how, spare-parts, and know-how.

If your upset that you had to leave the Huey and it wont spawn, then destroy it yourself. It's not that hard to flip those or have the infantry that you dropped shoot it, grenade it, or incendiary it.

[Gore]

I like the part that you have to go back to the crate to "reload" your wrench or whatever it would be.

[Tirak]

If your upset that you had to leave the Huey and it wont spawn, then destroy it yourself. It's not that hard to flip those or have the infantry that you dropped shoot it, grenade it, or incendiary it.

Because helos are worth tickets, a lot of tickets.