[QUESTION] Is it allowed in general to bomb the enemy runway?

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Elektro
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[QUESTION] Is it allowed in general to bomb the enemy runway?

Post by Elektro »

As most of you know if not all, the runway can be destroyed at either bases in kashan, or quinling. If you have played on the battleforce training server i am sure you have experienced a broken runway.

The runway can be fixed by an engineer, but nerver in a deployment match, have i seen a broken runway.

Is it allowed to bomb it, since it can be destroyed? It would be a smart thing to do considering the amount of time it would take to fix it and the planes cannot reload at least not on kashan.

But i have nerver done of fear to be kicked or banned from the server
MrScruff
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Re: [QUESTION] Is it allowed in general to bomb the enemy runway?

Post by MrScruff »

You are allowed but its subject to that particular server's rules.
epoch
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Re: [QUESTION] Is it allowed in general to bomb the enemy runway?

Post by epoch »

Several servers don't allow runway bombing, because it's too easy for that to lead to "base rape". A badly dropped bomb - whether accidental or *cough* "accidental" will lead to all manner of complaints.

It's always best to ask the admins whilst you're on their server - just to ensure you're on the right side of the rules.


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Su34
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Re: [QUESTION] Is it allowed in general to bomb the enemy runway?

Post by Su34 »

Bombing the base is always baserape for me, no matter if you kill somone or not.
And since the runway is always part of the base, you always rape the base if you attack the runway.

So, if baserape is allowed you may bomb it, but on most servers it is not allowed...
wookimonsta
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Re: [QUESTION] Is it allowed in general to bomb the enemy runway?

Post by wookimonsta »

yeah, for good reasons, ive seen servers where hitting the runway was allowed but hitting anything else in the base wasn't. of course sometimes bombs would "accidentally" hit square into the base.
bondsan
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Re: [QUESTION] Is it allowed in general to bomb the enemy runway?

Post by bondsan »

i would go with server rules, if permitted tally ho and get stuck in just hope i'm not on the other side manning the base AA :D
J.Burton[EEF]
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Re: [QUESTION] Is it allowed in general to bomb the enemy runway?

Post by J.Burton[EEF] »

I always call BS on this rule, and general baserape. IMO, this is project reality, so I want to play the game and do what they'd do IRL. IRL, they bomb the **** out of airbases if they get a chance.
Psyko
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Re: [QUESTION] Is it allowed in general to bomb the enemy runway?

Post by Psyko »

i say do it while you still can. i think that stuff is being removed. sombody mentioned it on the main forums ages back.
wookimonsta
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Re: [QUESTION] Is it allowed in general to bomb the enemy runway?

Post by wookimonsta »

'J.Burton[EEF wrote:;1104474']I always call BS on this rule, and general baserape. IMO, this is project reality, so I want to play the game and do what they'd do IRL. IRL, they bomb the **** out of airbases if they get a chance.
heh, you try flying in over something like kandahar airbase, lets see how far you get.
its project reality yeah. and in reality an airbase would be defended against air attacks.
Neo_Mapper
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Re: [QUESTION] Is it allowed in general to bomb the enemy runway?

Post by Neo_Mapper »

'J.Burton[EEF wrote:;1104474']I always call BS on this rule, and general baserape. IMO, this is project reality, so I want to play the game and do what they'd do IRL. IRL, they bomb the **** out of airbases if they get a chance.
the problem about thiz realz is, that there wouldnt be anywhere 2 airbases that near. I mean the distance is what? 11km? And bombing a airbase isnt that usual. I mean there are a load of Anti Air stuff and radars which are manned 24/7 so they would see such jets incoming, like A10/Frogfoot....


I would say NO BASERAPE AT ALL FOR AAS! (insurgency is something different)

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Glimmerman
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Re: [QUESTION] Is it allowed in general to bomb the enemy runway?

Post by Glimmerman »

I think its a perfectly good strategy, if people complain about getting raped they should have defended their airfield better.
gazzthompson
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Re: [QUESTION] Is it allowed in general to bomb the enemy runway?

Post by gazzthompson »

i agree new mapper, the bases wouldnt be that close IRL and you cant expect players to defend there main bases at all times.

and we all know how much you like baserape gillmerman after playing against you on reality teamwork.....
Oddsodz
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Re: [QUESTION] Is it allowed in general to bomb the enemy runway?

Post by Oddsodz »

[R-COM]Glimmerman wrote:I think its a perfectly good strategy, if people complain about getting raped they should have defended their airfield better.

Problem is there is just not enough players on a server to fully defend a base and go and cap flags and so on. I Do agree that in real life. The 1st thing to get hit is the base. In real life. War is BASERAPING. But this is a game. And sure it's fun if you are doing the rapping. But the server will soon empty. And you will be stuck playing by yourself.

If player count per server could be increased. This would not be such an issue.

I Don't do it until last flag. I See it as poor sport. I Don't need to baserape to win.
mat552
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Re: [QUESTION] Is it allowed in general to bomb the enemy runway?

Post by mat552 »

Actually I think it's fantastic when they bomb the runway, so long as the runway is the only thing cratered. It means you WASTED one of your bombs (or hydras, or gun rounds) that you have to rearm, and it's a few seconds of shoveling to get the runway usable again.
It also means you are utterly exposing yourself to a very large array of defensive armaments that may or may not be active, and it means you're off "rakin up da pointz" instead of helping your team.
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No but really it's pretty dumb. If I felt like dying as soon as I spawned from a jet, I would go play some vbf2. At least hold your pretense to realism and keep in mind that the airbases would be hundreds of miles away.
Players might be hardcoded, but that sure doesn't seem to stop anybody from trying.


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Spec
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Re: [QUESTION] Is it allowed in general to bomb the enemy runway?

Post by Spec »

Yea, it's poor sportsmanship to attack the enemy base imo, for the reasons already statet. They'd never be as close, so it's not even realistic, and it doesn't make the game any more fun. Winning is only a part of the game.

The fact that the runway can be destroyed... Never really understood that. Should be changed imo, doesn't fit the style of PR.
burghUK
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Re: [QUESTION] Is it allowed in general to bomb the enemy runway?

Post by burghUK »

I think its ok to destroy the last 30m of the runway because theres no risk of casualties normally.

While were on the subject of baserape...what do you guys think of lowlife children who sit at the end of the runway with AA?
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Re: [QUESTION] Is it allowed in general to bomb the enemy runway?

Post by fuzzhead »

destroyable runways was an experimental thing we thought about during v0.6 development cycle.

As most realize, it generally leads to greifing/annoying behavior and although a realistic real life tactic, most of the dev team agrees that its generally not a useful or positive feature in PR.

Also it contributes to the destroyable limit which we think would be useful elsewhere like more destroyable houses, doors, etc.

Future version will have non destroyable runways on qinling/kashan.
Peeta
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Re: [QUESTION] Is it allowed in general to bomb the enemy runway?

Post by Peeta »

[R-DEV]fuzzhead wrote:destroyable runways was an experimental thing we thought about during v0.6 development cycle.

As most realize, it generally leads to greifing/annoying behavior and although a realistic real life tactic, most of the dev team agrees that its generally not a useful or positive feature in PR.

Also it contributes to the destroyable limit which we think would be useful elsewhere like more destroyable houses, doors, etc.

Future version will have non destroyable runways on qinling/kashan.
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