[New Faction Proposal] New Zealand Defence Force

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HangMan_
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Re: [Proposal] New Zealand Defence Force

Post by HangMan_ »

Do u intend to put the Skyhawk in? lol i found proof tht NZ has planes jst so the aussies ddnt shut ths dwn.

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Also NZDF use the javelin missile for HAT so tht shud b put in.

Also these two HMG's should be considered for the FO MG positions.

The MAG 58 7.62mm Machine Gun (used as MG on NZLAV)
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L7A2 7.62mm Machine Gun
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Re: [Proposal] New Zealand Defence Force

Post by Tonnie »

XxX_HangMan_XxX wrote:ol i found proof tht NZ has planes jst so the aussies ddnt shut ths dwn.
urrm yet another handy down :P you guys always get our old stuff that and we tend to share half our current shiz with ya... well once you get some models going maybe we can go have some "fush and ships bro...."

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Re: [Proposal] New Zealand Defence Force

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[R-DEV]tonnie15 wrote: "fush and ships bro...."
lol man I can never help doing that to one of my mates he still says it like that eventhough he lives here :razz:
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Re: [Proposal] New Zealand Defence Force

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you guys always get our old stuff
Actually they were purchased off the americans... we all knw tht the ADF has better gear so u've won there. its a pity the aussie SAS is only tier 2
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Re: [Proposal] New Zealand Defence Force

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Is this idea still alive? or am I the only one who wants this faction lol
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Re: [Proposal] New Zealand Defence Force

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its not about wanting, its about making ....
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Re: [Proposal] New Zealand Defence Force

Post by AK47shooter »

I don't think that a New Zealand army would be a very good idea.
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ChiefRyza
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Re: [Proposal] New Zealand Defence Force

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Well, it's taken the ADF and all of the other community factions well over a year to get their ideas off the ground and into a realization. It's just such a mind-boggling amount of work and you would be putting infinitely more pressure on the DEV's that would be used up working on it. Poor Chuc is animating every man and his dog for the next version!


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HangMan_
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Re: [Proposal] New Zealand Defence Force

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i am willing to lead this faction if there is interest in it. In terms of work, most of it is reskinning current assets and making maps. We hav US army nd USMC so y cant we hav NZDF and ADF?? They only have a few weapons in common. Different vehicles and aircraft. NZDF also use an earlier model Austeyr.

I alredy have a veteran coder (who is a noob at PR) ready to help out if necesary so off to a good start. Plus a map is being made that would like to have the NZDF as BLUFOR.

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SpaceDog
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Re: [Proposal] New Zealand Defence Force

Post by SpaceDog »

I quite like the idea of having the NZDF in PR. As for people saying the NZDF does not get deployed enough to warrent this they have been deployed to a number of countrys over the last 10 years. From memory these include:

Afganistan
Iraq
East Timor
Solomon Islands
Kosovo
Sudan

Plus there are pobably others I have forgotten.
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Re: [Proposal] New Zealand Defence Force

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As much as you may want the NZ forces (And i am not saying you cant try) TBH i just dont think there is enough people that would be willing to put enough effort into getting all the assets done. i Mean take a look at the aussies, We started up almost 2 years ago and only have one modeler apart from ancientmans nade and two texture artists and then as soon as i went on deployment the aussies came to a holt. Reason for this is we just did not have and still dont have enough guys on our team, reason i say all this is, will there be enough guys who will be willing to see this faction to the end? Dont think i am putting the idea down at all, I have served with NZ troops and there good soldiers nothing agaist them but i just cant see it getting finished. I mean sure you might get some assets done but most of the work load will be on one or two ppl and if one diseperes then your screwed.

Just think it over ask your self this:
1 Have you got enough ppl to make the assets
2 How long will it take to make the assets
3 Is it worth it (Not just yourself but the whole community)
4 What will it bring other then just another gloyrified faction

Theres more but i cant be stuffed. Again dont think i dont want the NZ forces ingame i do, but i cant see it being finished, by all means prove me wrong

tonnie

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Re: [Proposal] New Zealand Defence Force

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[R-DEV]Tonnie wrote:As much as you may want the NZ forces (And i am not saying you cant try) TBH i just dont think there is enough people that would be willing to put enough effort into getting all the assets done. i Mean take a look at the aussies, We started up almost 2 years ago and only have one modeler apart from ancientmans nade and two texture artists and then as soon as i went on deployment the aussies came to a holt. Reason for this is we just did not have and still dont have enough guys on our team, reason i say all this is, will there be enough guys who will be willing to see this faction to the end? Dont think i am putting the idea down at all, I have served with NZ troops and there good soldiers nothing agaist them but i just cant see it getting finished. I mean sure you might get some assets done but most of the work load will be on one or two ppl and if one diseperes then your screwed.

Just think it over ask your self this:
1 Have you got enough ppl to make the assets
2 How long will it take to make the assets
3 Is it worth it (Not just yourself but the whole community)
4 What will it bring other then just another gloyrified faction

Theres more but i cant be stuffed. Again dont think i dont want the NZ forces ingame i do, but i cant see it being finished, by all means prove me wrong

tonnie
Tonnie i see where you are coming from.

But...

We have a team assembled and are beggining production of this faction already. It will be worthwhile to the community when we get our Unimog and NH-90 finished. The pinzgauer is low priority as it helps no one.

a lot of reskinning is taking place at the moment, but i understand that that is simply not enough progress to earn a forum slot. We have a few custom statics that have been amde for the Bamyan map. The map is well underway but still only at around 55% completion.

We are planning the Unimog and NH-90 at the moment but are having slight difficulties due to the fact that our modeler has prior comitments.

NZDF faction only plan to make 3 maps, of which 2 we would like to see in PR.

We are looking into ways that we can make the weaponry differ from the Ausforces without getting unrealistic. This may include things like having an Elcan on the rifle instead of the ADF acog, or vice versa.

If you would like to join the team then contact me, not who dares wins (he has not been online for quite some time and is not involved in our team at the present time)


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Re: [Proposal] New Zealand Defence Force

Post by Tonnie »

Righto was just making sure... Good luck ;)

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Re: [Proposal] New Zealand Defence Force

Post by ChiefRyza »

Making a PR quality vehicle is no walk in the park :(

Also remember you need to do voices after that, custom kit geometry etc etc.
Don't take this as us being on our high horse but we have a much larger Australian population and so we had those resources available to us. Nonetheless if you can find the people and get it out in the open then we'll back ya up :-P


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HangMan_
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Re: [Proposal] New Zealand Defence Force

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ChiefRyza wrote:Making a PR quality vehicle is no walk in the park :(

Also remember you need to do voices after that, custom kit geometry etc etc.
Don't take this as us being on our high horse but we have a much larger Australian population and so we had those resources available to us. Nonetheless if you can find the people and get it out in the open then we'll back ya up :-P
I appreciate the difficulty involved in making vehicles. We do need to expand our team... So if anyone wants to help out it would be much appreciated :D

As for custom kits, they need to be done but are low priority while we are using reskinned british ones. I think i may have to take up modeling again to do these.

We are hoping to use some of the assets being made by other community factions, but cannot get access to them yet as we are not an acknowledged faction (which is fair enough, security/confidentiality needs to be tight)

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Qaiex
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Re: [Proposal] New Zealand Defence Force

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It makes me sad to see the P226 chambered in 9mm when it could be chambered in 357 SIG.. :(
On topic however good luck! Where are New Zealanders active today?
HangMan_
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Re: [Proposal] New Zealand Defence Force

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qaiex wrote: On topic however good luck! Where are New Zealanders active today?
All over the world. Mostly peacekeeping but we hav regular forces in Timor Leste, The Soloman Islands, and Afghanistan. They r the AO's we wish to focus on.

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Re: [Proposal] New Zealand Defence Force

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Here is a design plan that was put together by me

NZDF Design Plan

Enjoy :D

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Re: [Proposal] New Zealand Defence Force

Post by woodzkiller »

lolz i like the idea but when you pick guns dont they have to be used in there army or made by a that faction? cuz the minimi is from belgium
ps: most people think that the famas is from china but its actually french
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Re: [Proposal] New Zealand Defence Force

Post by Tonnie »

woodzkiller wrote:lolz i like the idea but when you pick guns dont they have to be used in there army or made by a that faction? cuz the minimi is from belgium
ps: most people think that the famas is from china but its actually french
wow most random post ever :P

also hangman the link take me to Google spreadsheets and not to ur NZ one

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