servers playing same maps

[Scared_420]

is it just me or are all the servers that are full always playing muttrah/barracuda or insurgency 24/7 (same map rotation)

dont get me wrong, the maps are great but everyday for the last week those are the only maps that seem to have people in them,, am i the only one getting tired of playing these same maps over and over again, of course i could go to different servers but playing fools road 8 vs 8 not on skirmish is a little boring

the mappers have made plenty to choose from, lets play some variety and mix things up,,, throw on jabal or ejod or bi ming maybe even quinling every now and then and ill be a happy gamer

[Sidewinder Zulu]

Yeah, I miss Chicago 24/7 Kashan.

That was fun...

[charliegrs]

yeah this bothers me alot.

for example, in my area the servers near me only play muttrah, archer, basrah, fallujah, and maybe some crappy skirmish maps {i hate skirmish i will never understand the appeal}

i never see maps like qinling, kashan, i rarely see ramiel and karbala, barracuda sometimes, and i seriously NEVER see any russian maps, kozelsk, fools road etc. it really bothers me.

and i know this varies depending on where you are. im sure some people are positively sick of playing qinling, but the servers near me are deathly afraid of it for some reason.

but, i think this thread would be better off on the respective servers forums.

[galeknight1]

Yeah, I've noticed this a lot. There isn't very much selection, it's like 'if you don't like muttrah, **** off.' in my timezone Chicago Muttrah 24/7 is basically the only full server. But on the other hand, I've had several times where a map like Fools Road (my personal favourite) is played and leaves about only 30 people playing.

[Zi8]

Yeah, I've noticed this a lot. There isn't very much selection, it's like 'if you don't like muttrah, **** off.' in my timezone Chicago Muttrah 24/7 is basically the only full server. But on the other hand, I've had several times where a map like Fools Road (my personal favourite) is played and leaves about only 30 people playing.

True. Though Fools Road doesn't usually empty (our) server but Kozelsk, Archer, Qinling, Qwai (!!!). Korengal do. It's a bit hard for many not-so-popular servers to throw some "rare" maps in the the start - middle because it empties the server, they stick to the ones which public likes.

[USMC_Grunt]

I need variety. In my many years of gaming, I have never played on a server that only uses one map. I even shy away from servers who only use a couple of maps.

[alexaus]

Yeah, I've noticed this a lot. There isn't very much selection, it's like 'if you don't like muttrah, **** off.' in my timezone Chicago Muttrah 24/7 is basically the only full server. But on the other hand, I've had several times where a map like Fools Road (my personal favourite) is played and leaves about only 30 people playing.

dude ur from NewZealand theres an australian server thats always full during our time
and that plays all maps

so dont complain one US server is only one u can play on

[galeknight1]

I'm slightly exaggurating... but from the time I play (which isn't when the aussie servers are up) the main servers seem to be Chicago Hardcore (which has about 5 maps), their muttrah server or recently =HOG='s muttrah server... I could just be unlucky with my time.

[Deer]

Im a bit worried about this too... why so few maps are popular anymore ? Is it because of the maps design or because of the gameplay design in the maps ? I guess some maps have so succesfull gameplay that ppl just simply want more of those, even they like more than just those few maps.

[galeknight1]

Im a bit worried about this too... why so few maps are popular anymore ? Is it because of the maps design or because of the gameplay design in the maps ?

my guess is that it would be the gameplay... maps like Kozelsk is a mapping masterpiece but I guess some people don't find it as fun to play as certain other maps.

[Arnoldio]

Players suck...and because of them, server owners need to keep most popular maps on 24/7 or server is empty...

If people just get over it, not when you se Kozelsk loading up OMFG i dont like this stupid map and its complete ****, so ima disconnect and find dome Muttrah cuz its epic pwnz and i can rly do t3h pronespamming and also nadespamming and everything leet and i can rack up so many points that its unbelievable. On Kozelsk i dont get so many points and AKs suck.

You only see Muttrah, Asad...and thats it.

I dont like Asad, and neither do Muttrah, but I still play because I dont really care...

[Peeta]

I hate forest maps, I hate forest gameplay. I dont know why. I just dont like it. And I embrace Kashan.

[killonsight95]

i personaly like all maps i lvoe varity but one map i absoulutly hate is: Bi-Ming not because its bad map don't get me wrong its actualy quite good but the fact that teamwork never works out on it
i once played where everyone just went straight to Bi-Ming on the chinese side!!!

[Sidewinder Zulu]

For some reason it seems that everyone just wants to play infantry maps.

Once when I was on a big populated server an admin asked people what map we wanted to do next, and I said Kashan, because I literally had not played that map in like four months because it's impossible to find anywhere!

Anyway, everyone yelled at me and called me a "vehicle noob" and stuff, and then demanded to play Asad Khal or some other infantry only map.

I absolutely hate inf only maps (no offense to the map DEVs, it's the play style that gets to me, not the maps themselves) and I really don't see what the appeal is.
If you want to play some inf only nadespamming and bunnyhopping, go back to vBF2.
Project Reality is an awesome game because of its excellent mix of vehicular and infantry combat.
What's the point of having helicopters and tanks and such if you're not going to take advantage of them? ??:

So when they decided to do Asad Khal (I had already played it twice in the past 2 hours) I disconnected and read a book.
And that was much more fun than playing another infantry map would have been.

/mini-rant

[Kruder]

Im a bit worried about this too... why so few maps are popular anymore ? Is it because of the maps design or because of the gameplay design in the maps ?

Jungle and Forest maps +Kufrah arent popular.I know there will be some guys posting here/posted here about how much they like this or that map,but they are the minority.

Just throw a few chopeers for all of the 2x2 forest/jungle maps maybe it helps...(btw i dont like them either)

+agree on inf. maps with sidewinder,unless they have 900m visibility like Kashan

[DankE_SPB]

1st thing about maps rotation is server owners preferences, its their server and ofc they put maps they like

2nd thing is seeding the server, trying to fullfill it with lets say qinling, is impossible

3rd thing, and imo as important as 1st, is map rotation list, when admin ask ingame "what you want next?"(I actually haven't seen such question for ages) it raises tonns of ranting and suggestions, but you still can decide something and get what major of players want or if there is no obvious favourite just set what admins want/next map in rotation
point of this part is most of servers i played lately goes for "let the maplist go", which, combined with the time needed for 1 map, leads to if you play on same server couple of days, you will play same maps again and again, maps which are in the beginning of maplist

Jungle and Forest maps +Kufrah arent popular.I know there will be some guys posting here/posted here about how much they like this or that map,but they are the minority.

hehe, i bet thats because most of forest haters either cant use 1337 scopes in it or cant change their tactics to fight with lots of flanking forces(on desert terrain its easier to hold ground and cover flanks)

[davies[eef]]

The EEF will put a 24/7 kashan map on for some of you lads who says its not on servers tha much.thanks

[mat552]

Im a bit worried about this too... why so few maps are popular anymore ? Is it because of the maps design or because of the gameplay design in the maps ?

This comes from several factors. (My opinions, wheee)

First and foremost, the game itself has changed. Many of the maps that are currently in PR are from .7 or older. While chronologically that may not be that old, they are falling quickly to balance changes made and new additions in gameplay. The scoped LMGs are doing more to kill the converted infantry maps than any other major change I can think of.

Don't get me wrong, they have been proven to be realistic, and they are entertaining as all hell to catch a squad moving across a road with, but they are brutally effective, possibly too much so for some maps.

Another factor is the cutting down of maps. When Sunset City (examples, yay) came onto the scene, it was (as best I can recall) from the school of asymmetrical design, much like Qwai was. As the versions past, the assets were chipped away (whether one fell blow or multiple trimmings I don't recall) and the result is the map we now call Sunset City. A couple logi trucks and jeeps from a map that originally had choppers and tanks.

I'm not saying the mappers/devs were wrong to cut out all the assets from Sunset, but I am saying they need to think hard about changing one of the primary design ideas of a map. It was conceptualized as a combined arms asymmetrically balanced map. And it was. Then it became a symmetrically balanced infantry match. And fell from popularity a short time after that.

That last point is rendered a little silly by my next one though. PR is growing. Sunset City is 1km big, and in the growing scope of things, that's pretty small. Especially considering how much more (quality comes with quantity in this case, up to a certain point) urban combat can be had in other maps.

Some of my arguments can be transmitted across all of the maps that seem to empty a server, some can't. I don't have anything but my observations either way.

[Gore]

Players suck...and because of them, server owners need to keep most popular maps on 24/7 or server is empty...

If people just get over it, not when you se Kozelsk loading up OMFG i dont like this stupid map and its complete ****, so ima disconnect and find dome Muttrah cuz its epic pwnz and i can rly do t3h pronespamming and also nadespamming and everything leet and i can rack up so many points that its unbelievable. On Kozelsk i dont get so many points and AKs suck.

You only see Muttrah, Asad...and thats it.

I dont like Asad, and neither do Muttrah, but I still play because I dont really care...

Agree! Players stinks and every PR map is good, if it isn't played 24/7.

[bosco_]

More Koszelsk!




Always have a great time on that

Hopefully it will be played alot more with the boost the Ruskies get in 0.9.