Do PR Players rule in vanilla games?

[[RGG]Firefokker]

Here's a question that just randomly occurred to me:

I've been playing BF2 since it came out back in whenever. I used o ***** and moan myself silly about the lack of realism and teamplay on public servers, until earlier this year I found PR (yes, I am one of those baited by the widely despised 'MOD-of-the-year' in-game message.)

At first I sucked big time (as evidenced in this thread: https://www.realitymod.com/forum/f10-pr-general-discussion/60592-target-practice.html), but after plenty of practice I can now hit targets smaller than the average barn door, know when to lie low, realise that covering my arcs keeps me alive, and a whole lot of other things that make PR a godsent for any serious gamer.

Now, considering PRs steep learning curve and downloading the recent 1.5 BF2 patch I was wondering what happens when a squad of PR players take on your average f*-wit-fest on a public vanilla server. Do WE rule the roost with our methodical appoach to combat, or are all the finely tuned skills completely wasted in the face of grenade spamming, bunny-hopping, spawn-killing and all those other lovely traits that led to the creation of PR in the first place.

I have visions of well-lead PR squads having regular vanilla outings, anihilating and infuriating the entire enemy team while having a good old laugh on Teamspeak. Wishful thinking probably, but funny as hell...

(This of course is all MEANT to sound snobbishly elitist, in case a vanilla-lover stumbles across this thread and blows a fuse to the general entertainment of all.)

Just wondering what the rest of yous think about it; any first-hand accounts would of course be welcome. I would try it out myself but a recent house-move has cut my connection speed to 1/6th of what it was, so no point for the near future really.

Cheers,

Fokker

[Gore]

I enjoyed a round on BF2 a few days ago. I wouldn't say a squad of PR players would rule, not at all. All those highranks around have been playing forever and they're really fast. In PR we do it more slow, but take a squad of vanilla players on PR and they wouldn't rule neither.

[[RGG]Firefokker]

... but take a squad of vanilla players on PR and they wouldn't rule neither.

Very true. For a start they would not be able to hit anything, but I think we all made that experiene in the beginning....

[Bringerof_D]

i hopped into a nilla server a few months ago out of boredom after having played PR for about a year, and i seriously failed, i forgot with the support class it takes more than half your 100 round magazine to kill a guy. but once i picked up the chinese spec forces kit and walked off with it set on semi auto like i always did before i played PR, i was getting a relatively good score. QBZs just work for me...

all in all though no we will not PWN. the problem is we are now tuned to thinking that our opponent will also be thinking smart which means we wont be expecting the sniper we've cornered to come out and drop a claymore in your face then book it after no scoping one of your buddies.

[503]

Squads that move together in vanilla are really effective. Especially if everyone is a medic. That is until you get bombed by a jet.

[=Romagnolo=]

I don't play BF2 for a long time, but once I played CSS with a PR friends and, for sure, we owned the server

[Radarrat]

I seem to think you become a better player, but a little less patient because you want the teamwork to be there.

[Ssential]

I don't think so. While playing PR you learn much different skills than you do in vanilla BF2. For example teamwork , coordination, patience and so on. Those skills are much less effective and less important in BF2 than they are in PR. A PR only guy will be bad in BF2, a BF2 only guy will be bad in PR.

[MardyBum93]

when i play vanilla, i usually suck on my own but if group of us decides to go on we own the place, u just need a sweet medic who just runs round with paddles points gallore

[Outlawz7]

Squads that move together in vanilla are really effective. Especially if everyone is a medic. That is until you get bombed by a jet.

Yeah, I joined fuzz, Mongol, Duke and a few on a vBF2 server running Midnight Sun once, we went PR style with the squad having a support, medic, sniper etc. going after the first CP then we got artillery dropped on our head, after that a Fantan bombed the CP and then the scout heli ninja raped everyone while a ton of enemies popped out of nowhere ( my guess is SL paradropping and having everyone spawn on him) and we pretty much failed.

The situational awareness and communication skills you get from PR do help in a lot of other games.

[Brummy]

In OFP2 you will kick major ***, just like in ArmA2.

[Spec]

Yeah, teamwork is always is good, but there's many differences that can ruin it. I mean, try to use suppressive fire in Vanilla... If it's a similar game, the experience never hurts, but if it's a total run-and-gun shooter and you've trained to play slow and tactically, you probably won't be that much better. (Except for the teamwork, that always helps)

[Dizakui]

PR ruined my ability to play most FPS's which I used to be good at.
I always pause for a few second before I shoot now, no matter what game I'm playing, which means I end up dieing first.

[Mad-Mike]

I went back to vbf2 when the 1.5 patch was release to see whats been changed etc, and omg lets just say I quit after 10-15 mins.
(never again)

[boilerrat]

I feel violated and raped after playing PR and going back to bf2.

[Eddiereyes909]

I started playing PR, not because I wanted realism, but because I sucked at vanilla. Now, I still suck.

[gazzthompson]

i was very good at vbf2 when i move to PR (top of CB bf2 infantry with various of teams, and was in team uk) and i go back i still am good, i dont find PR effects my other games either (like cod4) except maybe i over think things, but the pace change is easy to adapt to.

[mat552]

I must have gotten some sort of ******* hybrid child worth of skills from my time in PR, because I gained four ranks in six hours in normal bf2. Everything that I used to do wrong in BF2, PR taught me to do, and the worst aspects in PR translated well into BF2.

I now hop between them regularly, but PR is so much easier on the patience levels to play.

[NyteMyre]

(top of CB bf2 infantry with various of teams, and was in team uk)

Cool, didn't knew players here knew ClanBase

[gazzthompson]

i played it on a regular basis when vbf2 had a huge competitive base:

ClanBase - Team United Kingdom

our team, dunno if link works as its like 3 years old and the clan i was in at the time was 19-1 when we stopped.