Reduce the Big Red armor

[Jorgee!]

I think it's overarmored, because if you hit an APC with a penetration shot with the Tank, it is destroyed, and you need TWO hits (Maybe 3?) to destroy a Big Red, and i think that isn't realistic....

IF you destroy an APC (Amored) with one shot, can you imagine what is going to happen if you hit a civilian "truck"?

Thanks.

[Gore]

One thing to remember is to shoot at the driver cabin, otherwise you will sometimes be in for a surprise I think it's good as it is, if you exercise in sneaking up on armor and think smart it will succed alot of times.

[Ccharge]

using big red is hard enough as it is. If your so close that you don't have the time to put 3 rounds into him then your to close to were all the enemys are. were talking 10 seconds max here. Also id like to mention that unless your shooting the engine compartment irl ap ammunition will just go right through a vehicle like that without damaging it. Try using HEAT maybe?

[loki1120]

terrorist armor there bomb cars somtimes, they used a cement truck and garbage truck on Abu Grahab a few years ago. tough Vehicles.

[Nebsif]

lol, once I shot 3 HEI rounds in the driver cabin, the ******* didnt die and blew us up.

[loki1120]

lol, once I shot 3 HEI rounds in the driver cabin, the ******* didnt die and blew us up.

50. Cal should be able to disable the truck.

[myles]

It has to be changed it is pretty UNREALISTIC the way it takes 2 shots with a tank to destroy big red.
And anyway big red hardly ever gets shot at so mkae it only 1 shot with a tank.

[loki1120]

It has to be changed it is pretty UNREALISTIC the way it takes 2 shots with a tank to destroy big red.
And anyway big red hardly ever gets shot at so mkae it only 1 shot with a tank.

i agree, a single tank shell shout destroy it, and a 50Cal shout disable it after a few burst.

but to make it fair, your not going to see a bomb just chillin on the back of a Bigrig, lol. maybe hide like 4 250Lb bombs in the center of the chassy so that you can have some Big Red's that arnt VBIED's??

[Nimise]

Maybe its just me but I have never had to hit big red more than once with tank to kill him(Even with hei)

[Arnoldio]

that needs to be changed...1 tank shot HE or AP, should disable the engine...

[gazzthompson]

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but to make it fair, your not going to see a bomb just chillin on the back of a Bigrig, lol. maybe hide like 4 250Lb bombs in the center of the chassy so that you can have some Big Red's that arnt VBIED's??

there is new large VBIED model in dev journals/blogs somewhere.

[boilerrat]

Do you guys realize how hard it is to use big red? It is sorta hard to sneak up on a tank in a HUGE RED target with a bomb on the back? Many people know it is unrealistic how much damage the VEHICLE can take, but there is a point where fun factor has to stay.

Usually the driver dies before the vehicle anyways. Rarely I see big red do anything at all to the other team, its hard enough to make it useful.

[Nebsif]

Do you guys realize how hard it is to use big red? It is sorta hard to sneak up on a tank in a HUGE RED target with a bomb on the back? Many people know it is unrealistic how much damage the VEHICLE can take, but there is a point where fun factor has to stay.

Usually the driver dies before the vehicle anyways. Rarely I see big red do anything at all to the other team, its hard enough to make it useful.

Maybe on basrah it aint useful, but on Op.Archer it can wipe whole squadS bcuz u have no apcs to shoot it for 8 seconds so it will die >.< There was a very good vid of op.archer, with lots of teamwork, humvee convoys and they all got wiped by 1 big reddy.

[boilerrat]

Maybe on basrah it aint useful, but on Op.Archer it can wipe whole squadS bcuz u have no apcs to shoot it for 8 seconds so it will die >.< There was a very good vid of op.archer, with lots of teamwork, humvee convoys and they all got wiped by 1 big reddy.

Link or it didn't happen

[Jaymz]

We plan on replacing it with a better, more realistic vehicle in the future.

[Qwerty1216]

Personally i think Big Red is alright the way it is now, i have no troubles taking it down. Looking forward to the new bomb truck in the future.

[Ccharge]

Personally i think Big Red is alright the way it is now, i have no troubles taking it down. Looking forward to the new bomb truck in the future.

who says it has to be a truck? *imagines red cessna with a insurgent inside it*

[BloodBane611]

who says it has to be a truck? *imagines red cessna with a insurgent inside it*

BALLER! Seriously, that would be awesome. Not at all realistic though.

EDIT: Back on topic, if a suicide vehicle is going to be effective, it has to be able to blend with the non-suicide vehicles. Even if big red is replaced with the garbage truck, the suicide truck cannot be the only one of its kind on the map. Add another one or two non-exploding trucks, just to keep the coalition guessing.

[Herbiie]

I think there need to be some civilian vehicles that you're not allowed to engage or something, maybe only civvis can drive them and they don't go very fast or something, not fast enough to kill people.

THEN suicide bombs would be more effective because if you drive it slowly it could be a civilian vehicle