[Faction Proposal] Venezuelan Army (OPFOR)

[Wilkinson]

No, not that's it's wrong, but if Venezuela bought Ak 103 and if you are going to have maps with Venezuela VS Brazil, then it's gonna be strange to get the same weapons on both sides!?
If by variation of weapons you mean Ak103 and FN FAL for the Venezuelan soldiers then I don't see anything wrong with that!!! I guess all the Venezuelan soldiers don't receive the Ak103.

Yeah. Chavez bought the liscense to make Ak-47s or something along the lines of that but no factory has been built to manufacture. Once that process begins we can change to all AKs.

[Bellator]

I think that the Venezuelan army should have AK103 only, like PLA solely wields the bullpup qbz-95, which, from what I understand, hasn't yet been issued to the entire Chinese military organization IRL. Project Reality probably depicts near future times, anyway, and the production of Venezuelan AK 103 is set to beginning in mid 2010. In any conflict, the Venezuelans would probably have AK103s for frontline units and reserve their FN FALs for secondary units, like the Type 81 are in China. So, may be the combat engineer might get an FN FAL, or perhaps some other rare kit.

Also, why would Venezuela, of all its troubled neighbourhood, fight Brazil?. Brazil has a largely ideologically aligned government, i.e. center-left populists and little seriously antagonistic relations with Venezuela (nothing compared to say, Iran and the US, or to use a historical example, the interbellum UK and Nazi Germany). There's a far greater probability, in my opinion, that Venezuela will have to combat FARC than Brazil or NATO. And in any conflict between the US/Columbia and Venezuela, I seriously doubt that any other NATO countries would even think of joining the war.

Further, Venezuelan army doesnt issue knives? Any knife?

[WilsonPL]

Did they bought optics to ak103?>
I only saw pictures where FNFALS with scopes were shown.

[Wilkinson]

I think that the Venezuelan army should have AK103 only, like PLA solely wields the bullpup qbz-95, which, from what I understand, hasn't yet been issued to the entire Chinese military organization IRL. Project Reality probably depicts near future times, anyway, and the production of Venezuelan AK 103 is set to beginning in mid 2010. In any conflict, the Venezuelans would probably have AK103s for frontline units and reserve their FN FALs for secondary units, like the Type 81 are in China. So, may be the combat engineer might get an FN FAL, or perhaps some other rare kit.

Right now the goal is to get the FN-FAL Modeled. Depending on the Date of Final Release and depictions of future events, We can honestly say that it will be a tough choice to pick what the main weapon will be. My Goal is for a mix but we will see what happens.

Also, why would Venezuela, of all its troubled neighbourhood, fight Brazil?. Brazil has a largely ideologically aligned government, i.e. center-left populists and little seriously antagonistic relations with Venezuela (nothing compared to say, Iran and the US, or to use a historical example, the interbellum UK and Nazi Germany). There's a far greater probability, in my opinion, that Venezuela will have to combat FARC than Brazil or NATO. And in any conflict between the US/Columbia and Venezuela, I seriously doubt that any other NATO countries would even think of joining the war.

The Venezuela will most likely not be fighing Brazil. Our Enemies for that faction will consist of FARC, Dutch Marines, US Army. Reason we'd consider Brazil vs. Venezuela is because of the FARC Soldiers being found with Venezuelan Marked Weaponry. No one has confirmed if the Venezuelans have given these weapons to them or sold on black market.

Further, Venezuelan army doesnt issue knives? Any knife?

Exactly why we will not be giving them a Knife. If anyone will get a knife it will be an officer for the Venezuelans. The Design Plan has "Punching Hands" has a placeholder until we figure something out.

[Wilkinson]

162eRI;1187954']I don't understand what you mean or want? What do you expect to give them instead of knives/bayonets? Doesn't the Venezuelan army use bayonets like every armies in the world??!!

As for the Ak103, after looking at the most recents pictures, seems they got mostly Ak103 in the "ejecito". I agree with Bellator about the FnFAL used by secondary units and reservists! You have to mixe both as you said, but main soldiers should get the Ak103...

By the way, found this pictures, lovely haha

Alright Will talk to some of the team and see what they say. Both you and Bellator have made good statements.

for the knife I am still in the works of finding the exact model. It's all in the works ;D

[ReadMenace]

I'm pretty sure Izhmash ships the AK103 with a sling, a cleaning kit, an oiler and a bayonet.

-REad

[Borisbr]

I seriously doubt in a conflict between Venezuela and FARC. I'd also not rule out a conflict between Brazil and Venezuela. Brazil has been keeping itself neutral so far, but the increasing beligerance of Chavez is not making anyone happier arround here.

Also, Obama and Lula started the talks for an strategic alliance between US and Brazil.

But all in all, its only a game. MEC doenst even exists...

[STORM-Mama]

That's, if we want Ak103, people would like FnFAL as well ^^

Well, but isn't a fair and realistic portrayal of an army more important than what "people would like"? People like many strange things.

Those weapons doesn't use the same ammo, so equiping frontline troops with both of them would be very unpractical for the Venezuelan Army. It is obvious that the plan is to fully replace the FAL, and it will probably happen quite soon aswell, so why even use it for this faction?

[Wilkinson]

Hi im from venezuela and my father is an officer of the National Guard and i have friends in the Army, i can provide some info about the equipment. I can start with some info now:

-The main rifle is the AK-103, the FN-FAL is still in service but only in the reserve

-The P90 is for the special forces

-The side weapon is the Browning GP-35

-The use diferent tipes of precision rifles, but the most present rifle is the Dragunov SVD

-The FN Minimi is the main machine gun

-The anti-vehicle they use the AT-4 and Bofors M-3, the HAT is the VE-Nilangal


-Anti-aircraft, for inf we have 9K38 Igla and a modded tiuna with (in some cases) Bofors RBS-70 , TOR-M1 and AMX-13 rafaga

-For light transport we have the Tiuna multipurpouse vehicle

-For the main battle tank i dont really know what T-# will be the present in the army, because there are discussions about buy the T-90 but i dont know, i will investigate about this topic. Other tanks are the FV101, AMX-30 and V-100 Commando and V-150

-APC´s they use the AMX-13 VTT, V100 commando and they ordered about +-250 BMP-3

-Transport choppers: Eurocopter Cougar, Bell 412, Huey, MI-17 "Panare" and MI-26 "Pemon"

-Attack choppers: Main MI-35 "Caribe" and the MI-28 will be the new adition for the Air Force

-Attack figther: F-16 and Sukoi 30

Welcome Wikathou!

Great to have someone with accurate information.
My questions to you are

-What Standard issued knife are the soldiers given?
-What Grenade is used by the VAF?
-What grenade attachment is used for the AK-103
-What Scopes/Sights do the AKs use
-Do they use the SA-18. I read they do somewhere.

Wilkinson, you have to get this faction on tracks, you can do it m8

Don't worry 162, it's on tracks

[sheggalism]

-Do they use the SA-18. I read they do somewhere.

9K38 Igla

9K38 Igla (russian name) = SA-18 Grouse (NATO reporting name)

Thanks wickathou, but do you have any info about your "VE-Nilangal" anti-tank rocket ? I didn't find anything about it (should consider the hypothetically bought RPG-7 Tandem if we can find sources).


There are some photos of soldiers carrying a bayonet on their AK-103 : Grupo de Acciones de Comando but they're tagged as "special forces". Still, you can ID the knife ^^

There's also a Venezuelan Marine Corps, although a relatively small force, they have some nice vehicles : Infanteria de Marina. Might find some use waaay later.

[DankE_SPB]

-What Scopes/Sights do the AKs use

pretty much sure that ironsights only(except some small units)

-Do they use the SA-18. I read they do somewhere.

RIA Novosti - Últimas noticias - Venezuela compra en Rusia sistemas portátiles de defensa antiaérea. Vedomosti
this says that Venezuela bought few hundreds of Igla-S(SA-24(9K33 )
and seems like they were delivered

[Wilkinson]

AK-103 rifles as well as the purchase of machinery and technology to domestically manufacture the corresponding ammunition.[3] Venezuela received its first shipment of 30,000 rifles on June 3, 2006. A second shipment of 32,000 AK-103s arrived on August 30th. The third and final shipment was delivered on November 29th, 2006. The rifles are planned to replace approximately 60,000 Belgian FAL rifles bought in 1953, as well as a further number of domestically produced FAL rifles. A manufacturing plant of the Russian rifles in Maracay would be fully operational in mid-2010, with a production capacity of 50,000 units per year.[4][5]

-Wikipedia

Straight from the Horses mouth. I will begin chopping out the FN FAL Completly and replacing with ak-47s and 103s

[WilsonPL]

about V100 , you can use few variants of tturrets on it, 7,62, 50cal, 100mm





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