replace taliban's lee en field

[RHYS4190]

This is some things iv noticed ingame,

I think it gotten to the stage that the le Enfield needs to be replaced, Iv been playing this game a while and i formed a opinion on just about all the weapons, But by far the worst weapon in game, is the iron sight lee Enfield.

this weapon is so bad, that it pretty much suicide for any one who even attempts to use it against blue force. But that not the real problem the problem is that it issued to the medic's
And this is having bad effects on game play. iv noticed that when playing the taliban no one really wants to use it, So no one is going medic.

What im suggesting is replace it with some thing people are comfortable using. ether a SKS, or better yet a Ak-74 or a AK-47

By doing this im very sure it will incourage people to uses the kit more, and will be better for gameplay.

[Tartantyco]

wut? The Lee Enfield is just awesomesauce, extremely good for picking off targets at range.

[Gore]

That's always a problem with medics. If they don't have an über gun no one will be medic. Just like the civi kit (or collaborator, for those who want an excuse for killing them) I'm also having trouble using the Enfield but I'll still go medic. The ability to heal compensates for his gun imo.

[RHYS4190]

wut? The Lee Enfield is just awesomesauce, extremely good for picking off targets at range.

No not really. have you noticed how much damage it actually does, It take 2 shot's in torso to kill some one, and for a bolt action rifle do you really think that works

[Gore]

As seen on 162eRI's pics, will the Taliban in PR get more WW2 weapons in the future? Been wanting to suggest that for a while as there's alot of those weapons going around down there. A Garand would be sweet. Even an MG42 as seen on 1 of the pics.

[H.sta]

yes, give the medic a m1 Garand in stead... love that thing

[joethepro36]

I agree with a replacement, either that or it needs to kill in one hit, FH2 style.

Firing at a target from a distance is difficult due to deviation, iron sights (and their general suckiness above 50m) and opponents having scoped weaponry. The other taliban weaponry has semi-auto fire so you can follow up shots quickly if you miss. With the enfield, you can't afford to miss, you fire and the enemy knows where you are instantly. Even if you hit, you need to place another shot on the same guy before he manages to shoot you or run into cover for a medic.

Having a bad weapon for a medic doesn't sound too bad in theory as it is their job to heal a squad and keep them fighting. The most important thing wrong with the taliban medic is it's inablity to defend himself. Nearly every single time I have attempted to wait in cover for the enemy to appear for a clean shot, the enemy turns and shoots me before I can get a second shot off accurately. Either that or they've already scoped up on me when I'm aiming at them. Here's what happened when 1 TIME I got a kill on someone approaching me:
"HEY GUYS, JESUS CHRIST, I GOT A KILL WITH THE ENFIELD! I ACTUALLY HAVE A KILL, 1-11 FUCK YEAH"

My suggestion for a replacement is the humble SKS, less desirable than an AK while still sucking enough for a medic. With the SKS, kills are a little more difficult than with an AK but still easy to get if you ambush opponents or wait in defence.

[Chuc]

Good luck finding the art assets or kindly asking FH2 or BGF for them..

[master of the templars]

Even an MG42 as seen on 1 of the pics.

It could be the more modern MG3, would be much easier to get ammo for and its currently used by some middle eastern countries.



And personally i love the enfield and have no problems getting kills with it, ya just gotta remember its not an AK

[Tim270]

It should stay, there is no doubt there are still loads of these weapons around. However, it does need to be more potent ingame, the problem is, people want the medic to stick with the squad, not to assume an overwatch or marksman style role with the weapon making it near useless in close quarters.

- 1 shot kill or lower deviation but keep the damage as it is would make the weapon a more viable choice for people to take. I really like having a bolt, but trying to play medic and 'snipe' people with it is quite conflicting, although you could argue you are a medic first, a rifleman second ingame.

[Gore]

I'd say rifleman first, medic second. As it's just about killing, a good medic is dedicated and puts his teammates as higher priority.

[RHYS4190]

162eRI;1190515']Well, don't know many people alive with 2 Lee Enfiled shots in torso.
It should be more powerful ingame then!!! I agree about that, it's a powerful rifle...



PS: See how many German weapons have been found! I would have prefered K.98 than Lee Enfield xD First because many K.98 were produced in Eastern countries or Arab countries (or/and sold to them at the end of WW2) and secondly, because I love this rifle. But the Lee Enfield is ok as well, since Afghan and Irak are both old English protectorates (or something similar) You can see Lee Enfield in the 4th and last pics.
Reall interesting article about the Enfield and the Mauser used by Insurgents!
OPFOR: Gun-Day Monday: The Enfield & The Mauser

But the prob is no one on the team seems to agree. they think if they made the lee Enfield as good as it really is in real life it be to over powered for a medic. I think is ridiculous remember is a bolt action rifle it is really a one shot deal, that in it self makes it under powered.

And the prob with making more w2 area weapons is they will not be appreciated. Talban have enough trouble with there current out of date arsenal with out giving them more totally obsolete weapons.

What i want to see is more current weapons/ Like G3 and perhaps even old versions of the M16's which at least in small numbers are not impossible to get a hold of.

And more verity. we should perhaps have a random kit, where you are randomly issued with ether a G3 M16a1 or a Ak-74.

[Herbiie]

Make it 1 shot 1 kill and take longer to do the bolt.

The Lee Enfield was only that quick during the second world war. The Taliban rarely clean their weapons, and the bolt would be old and rusty.

Tbh it is ridiculous atm (though I love it) that I can shoot someone with it in the chest and them to just turn around and shoot me back. A Lee Enfield round will easily go through body armour, and even if it didn't get through the body whoever gets hit is going to be in alot of pain and will not be able to simply turn around a blow me away with a single burst of 5.56.

[mat552]

Lee+Binocs=Sniper rifle. Medics double as snipers for the taliban, and I love it.

Edit, I'm pretty sure that once you're settled in, the deviation on the Sniper Lee and the Medic Lee are the same.

[Claymore]

When you are in a long range engagement, this rifle kicks some serious ***. One accurate shot from this weapon scares the Bluefor more than 30 inaccurate rounds from AK. CQC is really bad but as a medic I usually don't get into situations when I am alone. Best used on Operation Archer outside the city, Korengal is a different story though.

[boilerrat]

But the prob is no one on the team seems to agree. they think if they made the lee Enfield as good as it really is in real life it be to over powered for a medic. I think is ridiculous remember is a bolt action rifle it is really a one shot deal, that in it self makes it under powered.

And the prob with making more w2 area weapons is they will not be appreciated. Talban have enough trouble with there current out of date arsenal with out giving them more totally obsolete weapons.

What i want to see is more current weapons/ Like G3 and perhaps even old versions of the M16's which at least in small numbers are not impossible to get a hold of.

And more verity. we should perhaps have a random kit, where you are randomly issued with ether a G3 M16a1 or a Ak-74.

Actually, it doesn't matter very much about it being bolt or semi. Most of the stopping power has to do with the cartridge.

.303 British - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

This round is .303 or 7.7mm x56 which is slightly bigger than the SKS which is 7.62mm x 34 and used by the lee enfield.

Some of the gasses from firing the sks are used to reload the next round, which might take a bit of power away from the shot compared to the Lee enfield which all of the recoil from the firing goes into the bullet besides what energy is exerted on the shooter, now I would think there would be more stopping power if a person is laying down because there is more contact points with the body / ground.

[Hunt3r]

The Enfield needs to be one-shot one-kill. It would also be preferable for min deviation to be at 4 seconds.

There. Now the Enfield is incredibly powerful, accurate, but you only can take one shot before the other guy will hose you down.

[Alex6714]

If the guy you shot can be revived, has auto weapons and on top of that it takes 2 shots to kill him with a bolt action rifle you might as well throw it away and use your knife.

[StuTika]

Despite the fact that the .303 British round has the same energy as a 7.62 round, the Enfield really should be a one shot kill. You could say that this means that the G3 should also be a one shot kill, and you would be right, it is needed for game balance.

Am I not right in thinking that the DEVs priorities are balance/gamelplay first, realism second?

Stu.