Fighters no have bombs!Attack jets have more flares!

[samogon100500]

Hi!!!
Am suggest about replease bombs on fighter jet!!!
This is jet,for capturing air domination,not for CAS!!!
Yes F-16/MiG-29/J-10/EF TYPOON can take CAS for ground forces,but this is job for attack jets like A10/SU25 and very needet take more flares on attack jets!!!
About Su-30 - this is multirole fighter,but they made for air domination!!!I wan't see on this jet more AA missles(They have 12 pylons(Or 10,if they use Jam tools,i hope see missles aa on wings,under engines - take 2 bombs and 2 AG missles))!!!

[Alex6714]

I almost died of explanation and excitement.

But surprisingly enough there are ground attack variants of the F16 and various other fighters in game it its certainly not uncommon for the to have bombs...

You can´t have an air superiority fighter only when the enemy has only 2 jets you might see a couple of times a game...

[Drunkenup]

From Wikipedia (I know, but if it dun sound outrageous, you can trust it!)
"A multirole (or multi-role) combat aircraft is an aircraft that can be used as both a fighter aircraft and a ground attack aircraft. They are lighter and less powerful than air superiority fighters."
As well as "The Eurofighter Typhoon is a twin-engine canard-delta wing multirole aircraft."
And more "The Lockheed Martin F-16 Fighting Falcon is a multirole jet fighter aircraft originally developed by General Dynamics for the United States Air Force. "
Oooh, even my favorite Figher "The McDonnell Douglas (now Boeing) F/A-18 Hornet is an all-weather carrier-capable multirole fighter jet, designed to attack both ground and aerial targets."
And this "The Chengdu J-10 (simplified Chinese: 歼十; traditional Chinese: 殲十; pinyin: Jiān Shí, meaning "Annihilator (Fighter) Ten") is a multirole fighter aircraft "

And to finish it off "A multirole fighter is differentiated from a strike fighter in that the multirole fighter was designed to equally perform both aerial combat and ground attack, while the strike fighter is typically a fighter aircraft that can also employ air-to-ground munitions."

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[Drunkenup]

Never the less we truly know what the uses of those aircraft are.

But about the jets needing more flares, I couldn't agree more, and that includes flares on ALL Aircraft.

[mat552]

The two bombs are for pinch hitting really, not super effective, a stopgap measure for lack of a better support.

At least for the F16, I think they would give it two bombs, even if they are smaller. It's the same reason the A10 has sidewinders, just in case you need it.

[samogon100500]

OK!!!F16 multirole fighter,but they have vere small stock of fuel(~3000KG or ....)
They need Fuel tank!!!And they have it(2 big things =) )!!!
MiG-29 have 4000KG fuel + 500KG on fuel tank(Between engines)!!!
This is unrealistic - if jet flying very long time + have bombs!!!
Next - yes this is multirole jet,but in real life they using for one speciality,fighter or bomber!!!
Mix of this - jet shoot down!!!
I know one iraqi operation,where 4 US f16 flying only whit cluster bombs(2 aim-9,4 bombs,2 fueltanks)!!!
They needet only for CAS!!!If they have only 2 bombs - they are uselles as fighters and as bombers!!!
About fun on jets - on real life flying over 200km on target,this is fun???whit speed ~400-500KM/H(for economy of fuel)!!!Some people use Fighters only for CAS!!!

P.S old SU-27/Su-33 this is fighters for capturing air domination!!!This is not multirole!!!
They have only unguidet AG weapons(Su-33 have antiship missle)!!!New SU-27/33 has multirole and have guidet AG weapons!!!
P.P.S SU-33 = SU-27K K - KORABEL'NEEI(Корабельны&#1081 - For use in ships,who can use jets(We no have aviacariers)

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[DannyIMK]

im sure all those fighters are capable of ground attack in real life.
F16 is multirole fighter.
and the fighter bombs aren't so strong anyway.

there is no point in have Air Superiority Fighters for both teams with no ground attack. why would a team deploy a Air Superiority jet to take down another harmless(no bombs) jet

[CAS_117]

http://www.f-16.net/f-16_armament.html

[Ninja2dan]

Not quite sure the point of that image in relation to the topic. That is an F-16C based out of Kunsan AB, dropping what appears to be the GBU-31.




And I'm sorry, but I just can't follow this topic. I mean no offense to anyone who doesn't speak English as their primary language, but I'm really not understanding the point of this discussion or the basis to any of the arguments.

[CAS_117]

Fighters can carry bombs, and I put a source there.

[HangMan_]

I think this guy wants jets to no longer have bombs?? Man i am really confused. Jets still need the bombs, they have a hard enough time as it is why cripple them more.

[Kim Jong ill]

It's pretty simple, the OP doesn't understand the concept of a multirole fighter and the thread should be locked and canned.

[mat552]

These are not my viewpoints

He is suggesting that Fighter aircraft in PR (F16, MiG29, Eurofighter, J10) should NOT be equipped with any air to ground weapons on the basis that in reality these aircraft are only used for air superiority and do not have jobs that overlap with the Close Support Aircraft like the A10 and Su25.

The second suggestion is that there should be more flares equipped (only to) the A10 and Su25.

The third suggestion is relating to the hope that while the Su-30 was made as an "air-dominance" aircraft, it will be equipped as a multirole plane in PR. There is an expression of disbelief at the number of AA weapons on it, citing the 12 attachment pylons as proof that the aircraft should carry more AA weapons. He also desires for it to have 2 bombs, and 2 air to ground guided missiles. (The Su-30 is the Chinese two seater currently)