[Vegetation] Jungle Fever CONTINUED

[Salmonella]

Thankfully to GhostDance's trees, we finally could start making our maps, we really appreciate the donation of the materials, the trees are real great, but in some point it lacks in "Amazonian style".

https://www.realitymod.com/forum/f196-p ... ost1102384

If you Google for "Amazon forest" you'll see what I’m talking about, massive trunks and wiiiideeeee "tree tops"(I don't know how to say "Copas" in English)
Inside the jungle you barely can see what is above the trees and vice-versa

At first glance there’s no problem using vBF2, PR or GhostDance's trees to create that effect, but we all know that BF2 engine its very limited, if you need 120K trees to do that occlusion, the engine simply can't handle, even on top systems the fps its very low, almost unplayable.

With wider trees you can get the same effect with 50% less polygons, so i've started to created new tree models based on this principle, "wider it’s better", hhuhuhuh.

model 1- kind of sumauna tree

smaller trees are GhostDance's trees
model 2 & 3 - kind of jatoba

the tree on the background is the taller of GhostDance's trees.

They are not finished and I’m not working on textures for now, that’s why they look so similar.

[Tomato-Rifle]

Those trees are huge, they're nice, but i'm worried that the texture of going to look horrible when you ingame standing next to the trunk and its going to be so un-detailed that close up. you know what i mean?

[Bringerof_D]

awesome, i love jungle maps...although lately i've been stuck in cities since jungle maps seem to empty servers

also, same issue as tomato. are the textures going to be redone/increased detail?

[Salmonella]

no no no, when using tileable textures, instead of stretching you repeat the textures, so you have the same detail no matter what the size of your object.

i didn't spent much time in this models UV's, cause I'm planning to make new textures for it, I just applied a automatic mapping

[Salmonella]

once more,

[ReadMenace]

Trees providing ground cover.. NEVAR!

EXCELLENT JOB!!!

-REad

[lilkilla]

looks awsome

[Redfox]

Looks awesome really like them can you tell us polygons and tri count?

[Glimmerman]

Nice tree m8, brings a more of diversity, so thats alwaays a good thing

[Salmonella]

Looks awesome really like them can you tell us polygons and tri count?

model 1 - 974 tris
model 2,3 - 1237 tris
model 4 - 721 tris

that is in LOD0, in LOD1 i'm aiming to recude by 50%, and LOD2 to a maximum of 10 tris

ghostdance's trees have 900-1200 LOD0, 200-300 tris LOD1 and NO lod2
trees like de Dedicious(found in korengal valley) uses 300tris LOD0 and fucking 4 tris in lod1, and still makes the map laggy

the FPS drop when overviewing the jungle, is cause you see thousands of trees at same time.
tweaking the lods and viewdistance I think i'll get the ground cover effect without poor performance.

[Salmonella]

hey folks, I really like an opinion on this

like a said before, i'm trying to make the "jungle occlusion" effect with minor FPS drop, so I need to find the right spot between polycount and beauty
this test uses the model 3, with 1096 tris in lod0 that its shown up to 150meters and lod1 with 28 tris that is shown beyond 150 meters.




it runs smooth as silk on my system(8800gt, amd x2 6000), always above 60fps.
the point is, do the overall quality and lod transitions worth the fps gain?

[Hauteclocque]

Just take the numbers after the "=" in your youtube link.

[Mj Pain]

Here..

[Priby]

Maybe you should make a trunk for lod1 too. Or do you think they wont be seen if you get all the undergrowth on the map?

[Wilkinson]

With such a drastic LOD Drop the Visual effects are horendus. Though the BF2 Engine is more than suckish, this is probably the best fix-up we can probably provide. Try giving LOD1 50-60 more tris. see if it changes anything. Only time we will probably see AIR Assets are going to be 4KM in PR's Future. so this can be useful then.Otherwise it's all ground attack.

[*APG* <=130192=>]

lol...no chance to drop troopers into the wood
We need fast ropes!

[Amok@ndy]

i wanna play tarzan

[DenvH]

It looks nice but it looks empty on the ground.. maybe you could make some mid level, low level vegetation too... So it will a bit more dense.


Kind of like that, maybe with some jungle ferns and such.