10th Community Server license revoked.

[[10th] Totalverweigerung]

all we get is this here:

... It was not a decision that was taken lightly, and not something we enjoy using. We do however wish to make it clear that the Team is serious about the legally binding server license agreement. If you do not like the agreement, we would ask that you do not run a PR server. We would appreciate the community's support in this as the core reasons behind it is to ensure the ethos of PR, not just as a mod, but as a community.

thanks to be part in your superior community!
come on folks, we are mature enough to get this straight.

edit:

the matter is guys was not that the map was played but it was on the server list or said to be on the server list by administartor at the time, this probs breached the the rules and gorunds under hosting that map therefore server has been locked down or banned not sure yet.
do not take this out on the people who try to keep your forum and game clear of rebels making havok within community, but instead take it out on the server admin involved

hello? thanks for making my day!
you folks shut down our server with nothing more than "said" while the guy already apologizes for his sick behavior?

don´t you think we - as a community - would take our consequences out of that, too?

[Kain888]

And why is C0ca banned from forum? Do you fear a serious conversation about the problem or what?

I'm rather with Devs in their decision, but that is actually true. One sided conversation is not really productive. Give him opportunity to explain himself. Even criminals have their rights.

[Rhino]

want proof?

[19:41] c0cal1n: hey could you tell anywhere that we are running the snow map?
[19:41] [R-DEV]AncientMan: eh?
[19:41] [R-DEV]AncientMan: your server is running operation snow storm?
[19:41] c0cal1n: jup
[19:42] [R-DEV]AncientMan: do you have permission from rhino and the rcom team?
[19:42] c0cal1n: hehe what permission
[19:42] c0cal1n: no

[[10th] Totalverweigerung]

thats the chat, so what?
was it on the maplist?

no!

now get a live and unban c0ca from theese forums, I´m sick of this childish nonsense - everything is said.

[Rhino]

Totalverweigerung, he said he ran the map on the server, what more do you want?

The fact is its more than just about that, its also he has no respect for us developers what so ever and so it appears nor do you. If you guys respect us we will respect you back, its as simple as that.

[mat552]

The OBVIOUS solution here is to ban alcohol and not release anymore custom maps to anyone.

Why is the thread open for discussion in the first place? The DEVs are probably not going to reverse their position (publicly at least), and the members of the 10th that have posted thusfar have reacted exactly like the members of a community who are chastising the actions of a drunken admin ruining everything for them.

[maarit]

i dont wanna support really anybody in this cos i just dont know what are really happened there.

[DeadSmile187]

We never lost our Respect to you DEVS but you make it hard to talk about it instead of banning him of the forums and just not ask why he wrote such bullshit, even getting him a way to respond to this situation he made a failure, but i think he should get his chance to speak!

[Scot]

To all members of the 10th Community, if you want to get somewhere, I wouldn't do it in this thread. Contact the DEVs in question in private, and leave this thread if you want the most chances of getting your license back.

[Outlawz7]

Why does the title say '10th MEU' while all the members complaining here seem to be from 10th Community?

[Burton]

Poor DEV decision to allow this thread to become a discussion. You should have posted a statement as to why their license has been revoked and locked it up.

[Spec]

Apparently, the title says "10th MEU Community". I guess that's just a misunderstanding on some side.

[Sirex[SWE][MoW]]

dont be stupid space, we have a automated plugin on these forums that scans every user account to make sure there are no duplicate accounts and any we do find we ban, this includes devs...

We both know the only reason why you are even posting here is because you feel the need to rebel against us...

Oh hi there dev! Just so you know the RT is the only playable server for your mod since they are the only ones enforcing mumble. So i would be very carefull of trash talking their admin, unless you like the prospect of bojcott and internet trash talk campaing about PR.

My statements here are my own, obviously, and thus does not reflect RT admins or community members opinouns.

[Twisted Helix]

A license is a license and if it is not enforced, then it is of no value. The issue here is that the individual not only violated the license ... but was then rude when called to task on it.

Anyone who thinks that contractual law is a joking matter should take a step out into the real world and see what happens when you violate your contractual agreement with someone as simple as your utility company or even ISP. Go ahead ... violate it and see what happens and then say we are being harsh.

All we wish is for the agreements that we have laid down ... AND that have been agreed to and signed ... to be honored. When they are not ... we require an explanation ... and when that explanation is basically two fingers .. then we take action. We are pretty lenient in that regard ... again, try it on with your utility company or bank, and see how lenient they are.

Simple good manners and little bit of respect is all we ask of a hobby that some here pretty much work full time on. Is that too much to ask ? And whoever thinks that running a server is in anyway as time consuming as developing a mod or a game ... well ... what can I say. Ignorance is bliss.

And that really is the end of the matter. We would like to see decent behaviour and maturity all round ... and will respond in kind. This is not about a vendetta ... or an overreaction. Its about the simple matter of us wanting our wishes to be honoured ... in fact we have to enforce it ... otherwise we do not even honour our own rules. Duty bound. I am sure some of you understand that.

[Vitiation]

[MoW];1212764']Oh hi there dev! Just so you know the RT is the only playable server for your mod since they are the only ones enforcing mumble. So i would be very carefull of trash talking their admin, unless you like the prospect of bojcott and internet trash talk campaing about PR.

Fyi the Devs makes this mod for free, so boycotting them would be purely your loss really.
And i love the fact that your threatning the Devs with boycott and "trash talk campaign", in other words saying: Do what we want or we'll fuck you up.

These people make this mod for free, and they're not asking you to kiss, wipe, and powder they're asses, they're only asking you to be respectful.

And instead of blaming the Devs for punishing the entire clan, go complain to you admin, who infact represents your clan and server, so what he says represents your views and decisions.

Maybe take alittle more care when picking admins?

[biscuit123]

[MoW];1212764']Oh hi there dev! Just so you know the RT is the only playable server for your mod since they are the only ones enforcing mumble. So i would be very carefull of trash talking their admin, unless you like the prospect of bojcott and internet trash talk campaing about PR.

Don't be so pathetic and immature. Your first post in this thread was also pathetic and downright hostile. Who do you think you are, apart from a spoilt little brat? How can you say that PR is 'unplayable' without mumble? That's just ridiculous. It's only unplayable if you lack the intellectual and communication skills to communicate with other humans.

I find the fact that the RT server insta kicks people who don't have mumble to be unwelcoming and hostile, therefore completely at odds with the community spirit of PR. To be honest I would love for you to boycott PR and for the RT server to disappear. Please go ahead. You all come across as a bunch of arrogant, unpleasant pricks.

[Ccharge]

i have read 8 pages of replys by now, all i can understand is that this is a series of events in which the 10th community ended up on the rotten end of the stick.

I really do think that Coca should be allowed to voice his opinion publicly. There are also alot of people who claim that the map was never run. Now the binds of the agreement were broken but there was no real investigation into if this was true. A single mans words have changed quite abit, for better or worse we don't know.

Now if the devs are here to ensure our (the communitys) quality of gameplay, why would you punish so many for one's bad actions? I'm quite the open minded person but i still can't understand your angle. This isnt some sort of big company fraud, or a scandel, so why are actions being taken according to so?

[Spec]

People, chill... Does the thread really have to go up in flames? This should be resolved by those involved over xfire to avoid exactly what is happening right now.

[Twisted Helix]

Now if the devs are here to ensure our (the communitys) quality of gameplay, why would you punish so many for one's bad actions? I'm quite the open minded person but i still can't understand your angle. This isnt some sort of big company fraud, or a scandel, so why are actions being taken according to so?

Its very simple its the only recourse we have. We wish the license to be respected. When its not ... we find out why ... when faced with hostility, we revoke it.

That is our prerogative ... and the only thing that we ask for , for providing you with a mod for free.

This whole discussion speaks volumes about those who cannot see that.

[bosco_]

This is noone elses matter than the 10th's and the Management's. It will be resolved between those two. Public complaining won't help anyone.