When can you shoot civilians?

[ludwag]

Every time they don't have their hands raised? Every time they are having something in their hand? When they are running? Climbing? Can I road-kill them?

[Rudd]

run them over, shotgun them, shoot them when they are climbined or healing

[Herbiie]

Just don't shoot them, it makes life simpler & better for everyone involved.

[BloodBane611]

Personally, I shoot them when they are in the way. If they're being used as human shield in front of AR gunners I'll blast them out of the way, because the other choice is getting MGed. Otherwise, no real reason to go out of your way to shoot them, if you see one on his own try and arrest him or let him do his thing. Of course if you want a freebie you can shoot them when they're in vehicles/climbing/healing.

[Myru]

Treat them like normal insurgents and shoot them on contact. At the moment the civi is really bugged, which means that even with their hands up, you can shoot them in 9/10 cases without being punished.

[mongol-horde]

isnt it about 60 seconds after they've been doing some illegal activity instead of bugs?

"Civilians may be run over with a vehicle or shot while using vehicles, ladders
or ropes without any penalty or bonus. There is also no penalty for shooting
them if they used a weapon, vehicle or their medical equipment in the last 60
seconds."
from manual.

[Snazz]

I've been giving collaborator more of a go recently but am finding the majority of the time I'm being shot even when I'm clearly not hostile. So It seems the current system isn't really working as intended.

I'm hoping it will receive some tweaking in 0.9.

Treat them like normal insurgents and shoot them on contact. At the moment the civi is really bugged, which means that even with their hands up, you can shoot them in 9/10 cases without being punished.

There's certain rules of engagement which determine whether or not it's punishable to shoot a civi. It has nothing to do with whether their hands are up.

Your trigger-happy approach is a good example of why the system needs to be revised.

[Herbiie]

There's certain rules of engagement which determine whether or not it's punishable to shoot a civi. It has nothing to do with whether their hands are up.

I once saw a Civvi spawn, he scared the shit out of me cause I was by myself (after getting cut off from my squad, not lone wolfing) so I shot him then thought "Sugarplums". I got no penalty.

[gazzthompson]

i shot a civi recently, he got his health pack out and used it allowing me to kill him with a follow up shot with no penalty.

[BloodBane611]

i shot a civi recently, he got his health pack out and used it allowing me to kill him with a follow up shot with no penalty.

So the moral is: shoot the civis and then follow them until they whip out their health pack? I like it.

Hopefully 0.9 will bring us some civi changes, although thus far nothing has solved the problems with civilians getting shot all the time.

[Masaq]

You can shoot them when you've read the manual

[gazzthompson]

So the moral is: shoot the civis and then follow them until they whip out their health pack? I like it.

not even follow, most wip out the medic pack there and then.

[PuffNStuff]

A 5 min penalty would make people think before they shoot. lol

Take off the default 2min spawn time for the collaborator and you would get more people to play it... MORE OFTEN! Thats the only reason I don't play the civ

[alberto_di_gio]

Well....

You CAN shoot them in anytime at anywhere with anything you want.

Problem is actually when you SHOULD shoot them?

[bosco_]

There will be some changes to the conditions which allow you to shoot civilians in 0.9. Their life should be easier.

[503]

Just shoot them. Chances are you won't even get a penalty.

[NyteMyre]

There will be some changes to the conditions which allow you to shoot civilians in 0.9. Their life should be easier.

But nobody cares about the condition as you can read here....

I shoot them when they are in the way

shoot them on contact

[sniperrocks]

Wow, don;t shoot them
casue that defeats the whole purpose of the civilian kit in the first place (might as ell make him a medic)

[gazzthompson]

But nobody cares about the condition as you can read here....

nobody cares about the current (or lack of) conditions. not sure what DEVs have in mind but add a 2 min spawn time will make people think twice for example.