=HOG= (North America)

[mk19ftw]

@viktor I would guess its only an hour or 24 hour ban for the teamswitching.

@mk They run a really great server and what people need to understand if an admin asks you to do something you should do it, just b/c you think its un-democratic or you believe you have the right to do w/e doesnt mean you can disobey what they say, public or not, you didnt pay for the server or access to it.

if you have a problem w/ a particular admin or player im sure they will resolve it with you just present yourself in a normal (non-rage) manner and they will listen to you.

hope to see you all on the field of battle soon

Regardless. Your admins can be out of line. Maybe deny some rights or scale down your administration, in the mean time my clan will play elsewhere and will encourage our opposing clans to do the same.

Gooday


* And by out of line I mean, kicking me out of a game for using an asset that the admin wanted. In many cases I have created a cobra or transport squad just to get kicked because some of the admins want to jump around and use the asset when they feel like it. I play by server rules, and have never received a ban or in-fraction, yet Im supposed to respect and play alongside "Admins" who play the hitler card.

[]TAR[ Rebiv4]

Greetings HOG.

Please add a message somewhere on your server stating that we are not the same community. I just opened our new website and within 5 days I had at least 8 people messaging me multiple times asking why they were banned and fuming at me. This has been going on for a while and we just ask that you please make it clear somewhere as we do in ours.

Thank you,

]TAR[ Rebiv4
Clan Founder and Server Administrator of the original - Virginia USA PR .87 Mixed

[Rusty Shackleford]

@viktor I would guess its only an hour or 24 hour ban for the teamswitching.

@mk They run a really great server and what people need to understand if an admin asks you to do something you should do it, just b/c you think its un-democratic or you believe you have the right to do w/e doesnt mean you can disobey what they say, public or not, you didnt pay for the server or access to it.

if you have a problem w/ a particular admin or player im sure they will resolve it with you just present yourself in a normal (non-rage) manner and they will listen to you.

hope to see you all on the field of battle soon

I would have to disagree with this statement, I have found that some of their admins do not listen to your side of the story at all and most will never apologize for something they have done wrong. Just recently, an admin named "Phil" wouldn't respond after a guy Tked me out of my transport huey, yet he joins my squad and harasses me because I was using the LB to transport people. There were two LBs, the game was half over, NO LB squad present (they were just rotting), and the server only had 10 people on each side. I follow his commands and get out of the heli, but all he did was chew me out for not following rules, giving me no chance to tell my side of the story, but rather, he kept frantically saying "don't lie to me" and "this is my server, just shut up." Admins are supposed to listen to all sides of the story, not tell you to shut up. ??:
-P.S. never differ your story from a HOG admin, because they are omniscient and could never be wrong. It is a ban-able offense for your story to be different from theirs, apparently. Just go to HOG forums, there you will see many incidents of this occurring.

[=HOG=Nelsonc0]

I would have to disagree with this statement, I have found that some of their admins do not listen to your side of the story at all and most will never apologize for something they have done wrong. Just recently, an admin named "Phil" wouldn't respond after a guy Tked me out of my transport huey, yet he joins my squad and harasses me because I was using the LB to transport people. There were two LBs, the game was half over, NO LB squad present (they were just rotting), and the server only had 10 people on each side. I follow his commands and get out of the heli, but all he did was chew me out for not following rules, giving me no chance to tell my side of the story, but rather, he kept frantically saying "don't lie to me" and "this is my server, just shut up." Admins are supposed to listen to all sides of the story, not tell you to shut up. ??:
-P.S. never differ your story from a HOG admin, because they are omniscient and could never be wrong. It is a ban-able offense for your story to be different from theirs, apparently. Just go to HOG forums, there you will see many incidents of this occurring.

As admins we do try to listen to all sides of the story we even listen to sides of the story that never exsisted. From what you are describing it seems pretty cut and dry though. You where in a huey squad I presume and when there where no hueys left you hopped in a LB. I understand what you are saying about no LB squad and the round is almost over no sense in wasting them but it is still against the rules and unfortunately some people can't use proper judgment therefore we have to enforce the rules at all times not just when it makes since. Now in your case it sounds like Phil was decent enough to tell you in game instead of a warning/kick. We do get short tempered sometimes and I apologize for that but when a pub player is an asshat to us they don't tend to apologize that much either and we deal with a lot of asshats in a day. My suggestion to anyone who plays on our PR server if you feel an asset is just being wasted sitting there, then create a squad that will utilize it instead of just hopping in it while in an inappropriate squad.

[Rusty Shackleford]

As admins we do try to listen to all sides of the story we even listen to sides of the story that never exsisted. From what you are describing it seems pretty cut and dry though. You where in a huey squad I presume and when there where no hueys left you hopped in a LB. I understand what you are saying about no LB squad and the round is almost over no sense in wasting them but it is still against the rules and unfortunately some people can't use proper judgment therefore we have to enforce the rules at all times not just when it makes since. Now in your case it sounds like Phil was decent enough to tell you in game instead of a warning/kick. We do get short tempered sometimes and I apologize for that but when a pub player is an asshat to us they don't tend to apologize that much either and we deal with a lot of asshats in a day. My suggestion to anyone who plays on our PR server if you feel an asset is just being wasted sitting there, then create a squad that will utilize it instead of just hopping in it while in an inappropriate squad.

I immediately apologized for using the heli, as I thought the squad was named HELItransport instead of HUEY. I did not create the squad and the sl and his friend both crashed their helis and left. After I was TKed out of my huey by some asshat, I requested the assistance of an admin to no avail. He DID warn me without talking to me first, then joined what had become my squad and yelled at me over VOIP. I understand it gets old dealing with so many players that waste assets and TK, but there is no reason to take it out on the players that try to follow the rules.

[mk19ftw]

Was just banned for reporting my team mates for spamming the channel? Taking this server of the play list.

[BLAZENSADLIES]

Server is technically good but admins are lacking about the asset rules. For example, last time i joined, i saw that there were 3 apcs at mec side but only 1 squad was named as "apc" which consists of only 2 people.

After that, we decided to make a second apc squad named "BTR2" but then suddenly those guys started to whine, and admins told us to disband the squad.

What goes wrong here is that people are reserving the assets for them easily, if u are 2 people and there are more than 1 apcs, u just cant own them all, this should be very simple. However, admins also supporting this owning idea. This is not a proper rule on my side.

Did you happen to ask the BTR squad if you could take one of the idle BTR's? I would think you probably did not. We as admins do not mind if there are multiple BTR squads as long as it is ok with the Original BTR/APC squad. Taking a heavy asset with out asking b/c you think it is not right to call all BTR's is considered stealing assets and against our server rules.

This inline the problem that most people have. Everyone wants to say/interrupt the rules how they think they should be. However they are missing one thing. They are not =HOG= members and they do not run the server. We have very basic rules that allow heavy assets squad, inf squads ect the ability to run all sorts of strategies. And if some with a heavy assets squad lets just say the BTR's - That SL probably has a certain strategy he/she is planning. If a player does not ask to join the BTR squad/join the BTR squad and decided to take a BTR than I can tell you that you will be kicked. Repeat offenses will be handled more severely.

I do not mean to be harsh in any way. I think we run a great server and if you jumped on our vent you would see what we have to deal with on a daily bases to admin a PR server. At times I find myself SL and having my squad sit for ten mins while I read text to admin the server. Sometimes our admins may have a quick trigger to kick however it is usually correct. For all the **** we take to admin the server I think a simple thank you to the admins would be more appropriate.

Just my two cents - See you on the battlefield.

[BLAZENSADLIES]

I play on this server often. Yet I feel the admins tend to power play too much and test their authority when it is not needed. I was in the cobra squad in a semi full server waiting for a partner and they threatened to kick me because I was one manning the asset. When in reality I was sitting on the carrier with a rifleman kit waiting for a partner to join. I stated this and they told me If i was going to question their god given "authority" they would kick me. This was only one of the many run ins Ive had with their little gang of generals who feel the need to ploy power at regular players. I understand it is their server, but if it is a public server I feel they should put the leash on their admins or they will never see me on there again. Between the admins hogging all of the assets and kicking anyone who makes a squad before them and ban/kick threats... overall I give it a 2 out of 5 as far as server rating goes.

I understand what you are saying - however do you know how many times the same situation has happened. Some one starts a cobra squad - We warn to get a gunner - They say chill - Than two seconds later they crash the Cobra b/c they were flying around the carrier waiting for the gunner. Now the whole team suffers. That is why sometimes it looks like we are being POWER happy but in reality we are trying to make sure that everyone has a good time. And yes we are VERY sensitive with heavy assets - only b/c each assets takes points from teams and takes time to re spawn.

See you on the battlefield

[BLAZENSADLIES]

Was just banned for reporting my team mates for spamming the channel? Taking this server of the play list.

Yes i banned you and you will not be returning to our server. This guy sat and report everything you could imagine. Spamming the chat asking admins/pub players repeat questions and is completely unexceptionable. Your general attitude and lack of respect for the players in our server is why you are no longer welcome.

[ViktorMk]

I got perma banned for teamswitching, im not going on you'r website to appeal this bullshit. It autoswitched me i switch back and i get perma banned, you'r loss not mine barely played there anyways.

[=HOG=Nelsonc0]

I got perma banned for teamswitching, im not going on you'r website to appeal this bullshit. It autoswitched me i switch back and i get perma banned, you'r loss not mine barely played there anyways.

I assume your name is MK ViktorAce? If so it doesn't appear that you where banned for team switching but for other reasons.

[BLAZENSADLIES]

I got perma banned for teamswitching, im not going on you'r website to appeal this bullshit. It autoswitched me i switch back and i get perma banned, you'r loss not mine barely played there anyways.

I see (saw) you in there all the time. Your loss not ours.

[ViktorMk]

I assume your name is MK ViktorAce? If so it doesn't appear that you where banned for team switching but for other reasons.

What other reasons, i would really love to know them considering the last time i wenton the server i wasn't even playing yet in the field and got banned perma.

[5h4d0w]

=HOG= admins are banning for no reason. Now I'm banned from Virginia US 0.87 PR MIX and Virginia Muttrah. On Virginia US 0.87 PR MIX I have been banned for stupid reason. I have created first A-10 squad on Kashan Desert and I was first on the list. And other clan created CAS squad and then =HOG= banned me for duplicated squad ( But I was 1. and that clan was 5. or 7. I don't remember ). That's the first reason. Second on is when we were playing Fallujah West I was with my team mate and we were " Main Defense " squad. When I took Marksman kit and my friend took the Sniper kit admin banned us for camping in Main Base. -.-'. Now for Muttrah. Guy created Cobra squad and I entered and ask if I can go with him in cobra. He said " yes sure " and we were flying and when we landed on carier, one guy took HAT and blow our Cobra and admin BANNED ME FOR BEING TEAMKILLED. -.-'.. Now I'm banned from Virginia US 0.87 PR MIX and Virginia Muttrah. All I can say that admins on those server are stupid and they're banning for stupid reason. I'm innocent btw.

[Linkman]

=HOG= admins are banning for no reason. Now I'm banned from Virginia US 0.87 PR MIX and Virginia Muttrah. On Virginia US 0.87 PR MIX I have been banned for stupid reason. I have created first A-10 squad on Kashan Desert and I was first on the list. And other clan created CAS squad and then =HOG= banned me for duplicated squad ( But I was 1. and that clan was 5. or 7. I don't remember ). That's the first reason. Second on is when we were playing Fallujah West I was with my team mate and we were " Main Defense " squad. When I took Marksman kit and my friend took the Sniper kit admin banned us for camping in Main Base. -.-'. Now for Muttrah. Guy created Cobra squad and I entered and ask if I can go with him in cobra. He said " yes sure " and we were flying and when we landed on carier, one guy took HAT and blow our Cobra and admin BANNED ME FOR BEING TEAMKILLED. -.-'.. Now I'm banned from Virginia US 0.87 PR MIX and Virginia Muttrah. All I can say that admins on those server are stupid and they're banning for stupid reason. I'm innocent btw.

WOW 5h4d0w...
I think you need to understand a few things first off.
1) the Virginia US 0.87 PR MIX server is not our server it is the =RRF= clans server so there is not help for you posting here in the post...by any on the admins from =HOG=
2) I have looked for your name on the =HOG= 24/7 Muttrah server ban list and do not see you there, but from the tone of your post is sounds like you have a issue here and Im thinking these servers are not going to be the only server you get banned from.
3) You make your self look a little bit foolish by posting in the way you have here because your issues do not have nothing to do with the =HOG= clans server or there admins and I think if you had taken the time to read the first post of this thread you would see that the =HOG= clan has a great website where you can take up any issue with us threr and most of the players that have issue do this and the issue gets resloved quicker then posting here.

SO please take a deep breath and relax a second and think before you start bad mouthing a server and a clan when they are not even the ones who ban you.

Good luck to you and hope you get this worked out.

[ViktorMk]

You never explained to me why i was banned.


Also, Shadow if you want to appeal you'r ban go to Tarclan.com.

[snooggums]

You never explained to me why i was banned.


Also, Shadow if you want to appeal you'r ban go to Tarclan.com.

You said:

I got perma banned for teamswitching, im not going on you'r website to appeal this bullshit. It autoswitched me i switch back and i get perma banned, you'r loss not mine barely played there anyways.

Maybe you could find out why you were banned by going on their website?

[Dunehunter]

Shame I didn't get a screenie of me getting kicked

[5h4d0w]

LOL I have played on Wednesday and I was bored so I took huey flying around and quit the game. Now I'm trying to get it but I'm banned I'm banned from all =HOG= servers: Virginia Muttrah, Virginia US PR MIXED, Hardcore Gamers and Hardcore Insurgency. Now that's lil' bit strange.