Where did the training mode go?

Qaiex · Post by **Qaiex** » 2010-02-05 11:54

I can't find it or any mention of it anywhere. :O
I wanted to provide some feedback on the Chinook, but to do that I have to fly it for a few hours, test it's limits, crash it trying to do impossible turns and evasive maneuvers.
But for the life of me I can't find any button to create a local training server, or search for internet training servers.

What's the deal?

death87 · Post by **death87** » 2010-02-05 12:02

they removed it for co-op instead. Playing on them, there's TKing everywhere.. its a mess. =/

Qaiex · Post by **Qaiex** » 2010-02-05 12:04

Does co-op have the fast respawning vehicles?
If not then I fear for the maps like muttrah and barracuda where people rely on helicopter transportation, if new players join they can't practice flying and will be the cause of many many teamkills and server bans.

What a mess.

Subblaze · Post by **Subblaze** » 2010-02-05 12:08

just make a local game and train all alone

dunno/be · Post by **dunno/be** » 2010-02-05 12:15

Please reintroduce the Training Mode Petition.

+1

Post by **CodeRedFox** » 2010-02-05 12:26

The training mode was removed because a majority of servers/game were DM asshatery. Everything that was great about PR was being trashed. We just dont want that.

The COOP will do everything you need, sure no fast vehicle respawn but PR isnt about that.

If training mode returns it will not be what we had before. It will be a training like map with no DM battles.

XxxGrANdmA · Post by **XxxGrANdmA** » 2010-02-05 12:27

dunno/be wrote:Please reintroduce the Training Mode Petition.

+1

Agreed, i think it should stay in because people did actualy use it. I heard they took it out because it didn't fufil their purpose or something. I'll be playing pr in a hour or two

Qaiex · Post by **Qaiex** » 2010-02-05 12:28

I'm happy as long as I can practice flying helicopters without having to wait 10 minutes for respawns or restart the map constantly.

DeltaFart · Post by **DeltaFart** » 2010-02-05 12:29

ninja'ed ^ haha

death87 · Post by **death87** » 2010-02-05 12:29

[R-DEV]CodeRedFox wrote:The training mode was removed because a majority of servers/game were DM asshatery. Everything that was great about PR was being trashed. We just dont want that.

The COOP will do everything you need, sure no fast vehicle respawn but PR isnt about that.

If training mode returns it will not be what we had before. It will be a training like map with no DM battles.

what's DM?

Feriluce · Post by **Feriluce** » 2010-02-05 12:30

[R-DEV]CodeRedFox wrote:The training mode was removed because a majority of servers/game were DM asshatery. Everything that was great about PR was being trashed. We just dont want that.

The COOP will do everything you need, sure no fast vehicle respawn but PR isnt about that.

If training mode returns it will not be what we had before. It will be a training like map with no DM battles.

The fast respawning vehicles were the whole point of training. Without that, there is no real way to test out the different vehicles and get a feel for how they handle before you jump right into it on a regular server.

With the influx of new players, and the absence of training mode, I'm simply gonna stay faaaar away from any kinda helicopter for the next few months.

death87 · Post by **death87** » 2010-02-05 12:33

plus the rounds are way too short with this ticket drop.

Training mode got removed for a watered down version of AAS..

Snazz · Post by **Snazz** » 2010-02-05 12:39

You don't need Training mode to practice flying helicopters you can create a local server.

As for fast respawn times if you really want them you can set them yourself. For example if you wanted to modify spawn times on Kashan you'd goto \mods\pr\levels\kashan_desert, open server.zip and browse to GameModes\gpm_coop then open GamePlayObjects.con in notepad. Scroll down to the vehicle/aircraft you want to spawn quicker and change these values:
ObjectTemplate.minSpawnDelay 180
ObjectTemplate.maxSpawnDelay 180

It's imporant to backup the file you're editing so you can revert back to the default version to play online.

Feriluce · Post by **Feriluce** » 2010-02-05 12:49

Snazz wrote:You don't need Training mode to practice flying helicopters you can create a local server.

As for fast respawn times if you really want them you can set them yourself. For example if you wanted to modify spawn times on Kashan you'd goto \mods\pr\levels\kashan_desert, open server.zip and browse to GameModes\gpm_coop then open GamePlayObjects.con in notepad. Scroll down to the vehicle/aircraft you want to spawn quicker and change these values:
ObjectTemplate.minSpawnDelay 180
ObjectTemplate.maxSpawnDelay 180

It's imporant to backup the file you're editing so you can revert back to the default version to play online.

Yea see thats the problem right there.

With a local server you only have a few choppers of a single type pr. map. If you blow them all up practicing or you wanna try out another type of chopper you have to load a new map, which is a pain in the ***.

And you're right, you can do it yourself. But how many ppl are gonna go edit their PR files before they go flip full choppers on public servers?

Its simply not convinient like the training mode was, and that means not a lot of ppl is gonna use it.

alberto_di_gio · Post by **alberto_di_gio** » 2010-02-05 12:50

Personally I choose to create a local server if I want to test or develop something! It worked pretty fine until now.

Post by **Rudd** » 2010-02-05 12:51

44 bots vs 5 humans is more training than you'll ever need

its so hard that you have to resort to using TOW platforms on Ramiel

Snazz · Post by **Snazz** » 2010-02-05 12:56

Feriluce wrote:With a local server you only have a few choppers of a single type pr. map. If you blow them all up practicing or you wanna try out another type of chopper you have to load a new map, which is a pain in the ***.

You can also edit your maps to have different choppers.

Feriluce wrote:But how many ppl are gonna go edit their PR files before they go flip full choppers on public servers?

Not many I know, just advising people that they can do it. Otherwise they can deal with the spawn times and map load times.

Feriluce wrote:Its simply not convinient like the training mode was, and that means not a lot of ppl is gonna use it.

Sure it's not as convenient, but since the DEVs were so displeased with how training mode turned out it will have to do for now.

Bluedrake42 · Post by **Bluedrake42** » 2010-02-05 17:49

dude what are you talking about "the Coop will do everything you need"? Dude I tried coop, all the helicopters handle completely differently, I don't know why its that way but it is. And the main thing people are gonna train for are helo's, so... wtf? the coop isn't gonna help us at all

rushn · Post by **rushn** » 2010-02-05 18:31

they should bring back co op but have it in training mode

fast re spawn dum enemies and etc

Stealth Clobber · Post by **Stealth Clobber** » 2010-02-05 18:34

Feriluce wrote:With the influx of new players, and the absence of training mode, I'm simply gonna stay faaaar away from any kinda helicopter for the next few months.

Good.

The more people who choose not to fly on a live server because they are the slightest bit unconfident in their flying skills, the better.

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