IDF/Hamas Squadname Issues

[Zi8]

I guess that squad names like "antichristian, loljesus, lolcatholic, etc" would not bring up any conversations like this, but this is the way whole world seems to be.

I dont care what names people use in their squads unless they are reserving some assets or doing their work on the field properly.

[Tim270]

I dont see whats wrong with calling your squad Jewfantry on an IDF map at all etc.


I have actually been kicked for calling my BMP squad BNP by accident before people just need to chill out

It comes down to if the person is clearly trying to provoke a reaction rather than have a sense of humour, and that line should be drawn by the admins of said server. End of.

[Kilgore.dfa]

IMO, that subject is blown out of proportion. It's a game, just a game. But despite that, some people care WAY too much about these things. It's called RP.

You shouldn't worry about it unless they insult you or your belief in person.

It comes down to if the person is clearly trying to provoke a reaction rather than have a sense of humour, and that line should be drawn by the admins of said server. End of.

This is it.

[Teufel Eldritch]

Server admin issue.

[Herbiie]

Actually its the exact same thing. Names are only offensive to people if you chose to take offense. If a Jewish player takes offense at Jew then its offensive. Same if a person of the middle eastern persuasion takes offense at sandn****r. Though for these forums thats a bad word.

Not true Ni*AHEM*r has always been an insult against blacks, whereas Jew is just the name of the race. It's like being offended by the word Brit or Scot or Taffy or w.e (even Paki, though for some reasons Indians/Pakistanis are special) - absolutely ridiculous.

[Sidewinder Zulu]

Not true Ni*AHEM*r has always been an insult against blacks, .

Certainly not true in the US.
Here, the word Ni**er is used colloquially between friends who are African-American, and it's sort of just become another noun.
Heck, I've heard plenty of white kids refer to the black friends this way; nobody really cares. I think it's more taboo elsewhere than it is here in the States.

And on the subject of the offensive squad names: I really don't think it's that big a deal.
I mean, I kind of doubt that people would get so offended that they would be unable to play comfortably. If I'm not mistaken, the main reason admins don't like people having racist/profane/inappropriate squad names is because it disrupts game play that annoys people and takes them off the server.
Unless it really offends you, to the point that you can't play, then I don't see any problem.
I mean, sure, if someone is spouting racist/anti-Semitic epithets and such, then they should be warned and then kicked. I have seen this happen several times in PR.

I have several Jewish friends who play games online regularly, and they always hear plenty of anti-Semitic remarks, but they don't get offended, because they know people like to shoot their mouths off over the Internet, and that it's usually just in a joking manner.

[Meza82]

But what if the player who makes a squad like "JEWFANTRY" or "LOLJEW" (as mentioned earlier in this thread) is a Jewish person?

Or if the player who makes a squad called "4ALLAH" "INSHALLAH" is a Muslim person?

As this may change the context of the situation, is that still offensive/kickable?

[Tirak]

As far as I'm concerned, JEWFANTRY, LOLJEW, JEWPC, JEWVOIP ect. ect is all fine, just like MAPLE, BEAVER, BACON and SYRUP squads on Canadian maps are fine. It's a little amusing even, though I think part of the reason we're seeing so much of it is that the IDF is new, after a while, the novelty is going to wear off and you'll see less of it. Obviously there are ways that this reasonably innocent act can be perverted, and anything actively antisemitic (though given the squad name character limit, I don't think it's so much of a problem) is unacceptable, but other than that, let's just shake our heads and smile.

[Drop_Deadx]

though I think part of the reason we're seeing so much of it is that the IDF is new, after a while, the novelty is going to wear off and you'll see less of it.

Correct, Just like when the Russians were released all I would hear when someone missed a shot is "Oh I must be drunk off the vodka." or something stupid like that.

[Truism]

people are offended by those names? really?

I guess we should just remove the hamas faction, as they are anti-isreal, and therefore antisemitic.

This.

While we play as a faction who is killing Jews primarily because of their religion in order to eliminate the Jewish (or Zionist if you're that way inclined) state from the Arab world, some people are offended because of the light hearted use of the word Jew in squad names.

Grow up.

[[twl]Lan]

Server admin issue.

Personally, I believe that while this is a game there is no reason for anyone to offend anyone else. Just avoid it, play nice and enjoy. It's not that hard. Seeking attention by naming a squad something offensive is just pathetic and I can do without them - warn, kick and get new players into the server...

Mature teamwork FTW.

PS: Reading back on my own post I feel it sounds a little intolerant - which it isn't. New people that doesn't understand or doesn't know server rules get sympathy. Those that should know better, get a kick. Ban is reserved for the real a**es that cannot repent.

[Teek]

Personally I do not support the name, but until we see someone who actually does takes offense and not someone else trying to protect the innocence of the group in question, its a non-issue

[ludwag]

It is not racist. Judaism is a religion. The war is about religion. Jew is a short word that fits in squadnames. It is no different from us vs taliban, etc. Have you seen the global chat about allah u akbar and Christianity. It is not difference. This is ridiculous. As long as you don't use the word Semitic in the squad names, it is not racist. I know many Israelite people who play PR. They think it is funny. Why is this even an issue? I called my hamas squad "JEW HUNTERS". I think that is a good name. "LOLJEW" is not funny. But it should by all means be allowed.

[Mr Smiles]

Plain and simple, do not say or do anything you would not do if you'd stand personally eye to eye with one irl. Wanna offend? Go You Tube !

[Sirex[SWE][MoW]]

people are offended by those names? really?

I guess we should just remove the hamas faction, as they are anti-isreal, and therefore antisemitic.

This, +1.

Personally i consider anyone willing to ban for the name JEWFANTRY a politicall correct retard.

My personal rule about Jew fantry, kill jews, other national religion names is that if i would be fine that it would say SweFantry or BritFantry then i am fine with JewFantry. Becouse it is exactly the same thing. Anything else is Racist, against none muslim and jew.

For example if someone was banned for having the name JEWFANTRy while BRITFANTRy is allowed i think the Admin would be racist ***** towards none jews. Not racist in the strics since but the word have such high inflation right now so i have to use it.

[Tannhauser]

Talk about another pointless discussion.

It's up to the admins. Have we seen anyone complain about how racist it is when you get insurgent squads called ''Allah'' pop up during games? Oh wait no, because every muslim man is obviously a terrorist, all brits are named Gaz and are in the SAS, all cannucks are wood cutting giants, all africans are black zulu tribesmen, every germans are nazis and all russians seek world domination.

Although I agree with russkies and world domination, the rest is just plain silly.


Oh and, it's not because it doesn't agree with Israel, that it's antisemitic.
(Excluding Hamas, who admit being antisemitic.)

[Protector]

I always name my squad GAY, am I gay no, am I anti gay no but I just like it when people join and put on a camp voice for a laugh... Try not to take things so serious and just continue playing, you don't have to be in the squad or even that server...

[Pedz]

People need to relax and not take things too seriously. Also, if you do have a problem with someone calling their squad something you find offensive. Just ask them to change it nicely, you will soon find out whether it was a light joke or an asshat =]. (im sure you can guess what the different outcomes will be..)

[ma21212]

What about the COUNTLESS "Allah" ""Terrorsit" "and/or other variations of squad names I ussualy see on Ins. mode? I dont take offesne to it, hell I kinda giggle when I see it and how crappy the squad K/D ratio is. for serial man, if your gonna be offended by a few idiots in a game, good luck in life